# Hi Morgenstern, and all my friends from GQ.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 13, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078 "2012-06-13T22:51:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/41 "2012-06-14T13:55:51Z")

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> [@dauerbach](#):
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> I am missing something hear. Although Cornell has fantastic ice cream, a fenestrated cow, and some amazing buildings, it is still just a New York State land grant college.

Cornell has the 14th ranked law school in the country.

[http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings](http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings)

The 16th best medical program in the country.

[http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings](http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings)

The 16th best mba program in the country.

[http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings](http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings)

And the 15th best undergrad program in the country.

[http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/data](http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/data)

Are you as stupid as you claim to be, or are you just fucking with us?

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/42 "2012-06-14T14:11:39Z")

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> [@Kenm](#):
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> In a world where it costs $1 to $5 to inflate a tire, everything regarding cars can be wrapped up in two words: Bend over.

Anybody who buys a car thinking they’ll never have to put any money into it is at the very least willfully ignorant and at the most a complete moron. Cars are black holes you pour money into, I’ve known that since I was a kid for cryin’ out loud.

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**Author:** ![purplehorseshoe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/purplehorseshoe/32/2996_2.png) [@purplehorseshoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehorseshoe)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/43 "2012-06-14T14:47:23Z")

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> [@bucketybuck](#):
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> That fits perfectly, and I wasn’t aware there was a name for it so I have learned something today. Previously I would just have described Daurbach as too dumb to know he was dumb.

Yep, me too. That guy might be a dummy, but I learned something this morning! 😛

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**Author:** ![dauerbach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dauerbach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dauerbach)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/44 "2012-06-14T15:13:50Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> Cornell has the 14th ranked law school in the country.
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> [http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings](http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/law-rankings)
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> The 16th best medical program in the country.
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> [http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings](http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-medical-schools/research-rankings)
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> The 16th best mba program in the country.
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> [http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings](http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings)
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> And the 15th best undergrad program in the country.
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> [http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/data](http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/data)
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> Are you as stupid as you claim to be, or are you just fucking with us?

Surely you do not place import upon US News Rankings. They divide and sub-divide so much that they are totally worthless, and that was before the schools started gaming their standards.

Did you know that Misericordia ranks 2nd among regional colleges with horrible names, and No. 1 among colleges in Pennsylvania cities that should be in Texas.

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**Author:** ![dauerbach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dauerbach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dauerbach)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/45 "2012-06-14T15:18:51Z")

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And is it hard to appear as ignorant as you do? The fact that you are still breathing implies that you are not.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/46 "2012-06-14T15:26:22Z")

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From the wiki Dunning–Kruger cite above…

> [@](#):
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> “poor performers do not learn from feedback suggesting a need to improve.”

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**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/47 "2012-06-14T15:29:05Z")

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> [@dauerbach](#):
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> Surely you do not place import upon US News Rankings. They divide and sub-divide so much that they are totally worthless, and that was before the schools started gaming their standards.

And yet I, and probably most educated people in the US, have still heard of Cornell.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/48 "2012-06-14T15:37:43Z")

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> [@dauerbach](#):
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> I knew David Dunning when we were at Cornell, which is a beautiful cow college in New York State. He was laughed at then. We couldn’t believe it when he won the Noble prize, even if it was the one started by Al’s brother Ig.

This is either a totally botched humblebrag OR another area in which you display the Dunning Kruger Effect. Either way is hilarious!

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/49 "2012-06-14T15:38:00Z")

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Is…is he proudly bragging and standing up for the fact that we all know more than him? Because that seems to be what’s happening here.

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**Author:** ![dauerbach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dauerbach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dauerbach)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/50 "2012-06-14T15:41:33Z")

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Ok Morgenstern, I have no idea what point you are trying to make, and it is because you do not articulate well, and not because I am stupid.

And fine, many people have heard of Cornell. There is no question that it is a perfectly fine school. I have not said anything bad about it at all.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/51 "2012-06-14T15:41:37Z")

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> [@dauerbach](#):
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> I thought this would be filled with mean spirited buy intelligent comments, not a run of bottom of the barrel jokes that were never ever funny.

What you meant to say is that you thought everyone here would agree with you, and when then didn’t (because you’re a retarded fuckwad) you showed what a whiny little cum gargling bitch you really are.

eta: I’m sure you’ll have a really dumb comeback, but I’m goign to save myself the trouble of reading any more of your drivel : welcome to ignore 🙂

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**Author:** ![dauerbach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c2a13f/32.png) [@dauerbach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dauerbach)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/52 "2012-06-14T15:43:55Z")

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Also, what does having heard of a college have to do with anything.? Most people have heard of the University of New Jersey as well.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/53 "2012-06-14T15:48:30Z")

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Yes, but most of us call it Rutgers. Unless you’re referring to the _College_ of New Jersey, the former Trenton State.

Having heard of a college isn’t the point - your sublime ignorance in thinking that so few people have heard of it that you have to explain it is the point.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/54 "2012-06-14T15:56:35Z")

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> [@dauerbach](#):
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> Reading some other replies I see now why I have never posted here before. I thought this would be filled with mean spirited buy intelligent comments, not a run of bottom of the barrel jokes that were never ever funny.

As a rule of thumb, if you feel you are getting ganged up on in another forum, taking it to the pit is not a very bright idea. Those who disagreed with you before will be more unrestrained with their feelings, and you will gather a wider audience who are more likely to agree with them than with you.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/55 "2012-06-14T16:04:27Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> As a rule of thumb, if you feel you are getting ganged up on in another forum, taking it to the pit is not a very bright idea. Those who disagreed with you before will be more unrestrained with their feelings, and you will gather a wider audience who are more likely to agree with them than with you.

This goes double if you’re inarticulate and dumb.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/56 "2012-06-14T16:12:01Z")

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> [@dauerbach](#):
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> Surely you do not place import upon US News Rankings. They divide and sub-divide so much that they are totally worthless, and that was before the schools started gaming their standards.

Wait. So Darth Panda links you to how highly rated and impressive Cornell is, asking “Are you as stupid as you claim to be, or are you just fucking with us?”  
and your response is “don’t believe the rankings. Cornell isn’t all that great.”

In other words, you basically admitted that, yes, you are that fucking stupid.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/57 "2012-06-14T16:21:56Z")

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If Cornell would accept _him_, then maybe he’s got a point.

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/58 "2012-06-14T16:24:46Z")

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> [@dauerbach](#):
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> And fine, many people have heard of Cornell. There is no question that it is a perfectly fine school. I have not said anything bad about it at all.

But you tried to, and that’s what’s important. Good job, good effort.

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**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/59 "2012-06-14T16:31:54Z")

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Here, let me amend a comment of yours: that last statement is just to stupid as my comments in this thread are to smart. I’m sorry about your loss of some hearing too.

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hi-morgenstern-and-all-my-friends-from-gq/625078/60 "2012-06-14T16:37:27Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> I’ll spare you reading that whole thread. The short version is, **dauerbach** is an idiot and an asshole who thinks the rules don’t apply to him. He is either too cheap or too stupid, or both, to maintain his car properly, and he’s driving around with a busted catalytic converter because he ignored his check engine light. The fact that this means his old piece-of-shit is now spewing way more pollutants than it has to does not bother him, because emissions regulations are bullshit and he doesn’t care. He was an asshole to numerous knowledgeable people who attempted to correct his ignorance over 3 pages in GQ. And, something about the government.

A very good summary, **Abs**. But you left out the part where dauerbach pronounced it “ludicrous” that professional mechanics would have the nerve to \*charge money \*for their services! He wants to drop by Firestone, have them look things over, and then tell him what repairs he should do himself. And not charge him for this. Fine logic, that.

And then there’s this pair of tidbits:

> [@](#):
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> The car also idles slightly roughly, and my MPG has plummeted. Checking out on line, it seems this indicates an emissions failure that could compromise the Cat Converter.

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> Second, there is nothing wrong with the car.

I think your definition of “wrong” is, er, wrong.

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