# High Schooler challenges Michelle Bachman to a Constitution debate **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [May 17, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/high-schooler-challenges-michelle-bachman-to-a-constitution-debate/582212 "2011-05-17T16:09:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/high-schooler-challenges-michelle-bachman-to-a-constitution-debate/582212/41 "2011-05-19T15:08:14Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > That’s like saying I could out-debate Barack Obama because he has to stick to a liberal script and I can say anything I want. > > Regards, > Shodan Basically yes. I think having to stick to message and support ideology over facts puts one at a disadvantage. The reason the 16 year old wants to debate Bachmann is that Bachmann has said a lot of crazy things. The reason Bachman says all of those crazy things is because it is expected from her base. If she is in a debate she is going to have to defend all that. The 16 year old on the other hand has no constituency and so can stick to the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/high-schooler-challenges-michelle-bachman-to-a-constitution-debate/582212/42 "2011-05-19T15:20:12Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Gyrate is hereby appointed the Mayor of Absolutely Rightsville. It’s all part of my plan to become Governor of Awesomevania. If Bachmann (or Obama or Politician X) were just a legal scholar and the debate restricted to facts, the student would get slaughtered. But having to phrase all answers in politician-speak would hobble anyone to the point of being unable to win a serious debate with anyone not so hobbled. Which is what everyone else has already said, so in conclusion I welcome you all to Absolutely Rightville and hereby declare the first of June to be Free Cookie Day. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/high-schooler-challenges-michelle-bachman-to-a-constitution-debate/582212/43 "2011-05-20T21:22:19Z")
I sympathize with her concern for being dismissed because of her sex. High schoolers are dicks. I applaud her for throwing a challenge to the stupidity of Bachmann on the grounds that Bachmann saying stupid things gets morphed into all women politicians are stupid. I agree Bachmann will ignore it - there’s no upside. “Encouraging the political aspirations of a young woman” is not going to measure up against “stomping on a high schooler” or “being beaten by a high schooler”. Still, it’s a gutsy move for Myers. Not that debating the Constitution with a Congresswoman has anything to do with her high school presidency, but it shows moxy. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/high-schooler-challenges-michelle-bachman-to-a-constitution-debate/582212/44 "2011-05-20T22:08:10Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Still, it’s a gutsy move for Myers. Not that debating the Constitution with a Congresswoman has anything to do with her high school presidency, but it shows moxy. I don’t see why. I think it’s pretty obvious that Bachmann isn’t going to debate a high school kid. And Myers picked Bachmann because she thought Bachmann was a soft target, rightly or wrongly. If Myers thinks she’s hot shit as a debater, why isn’t she challenging Hilary Clinton or someone like that? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/high-schooler-challenges-michelle-bachman-to-a-constitution-debate/582212/45 "2011-05-20T22:26:00Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I don’t see why. I think it’s pretty obvious that Bachmann isn’t going to debate a high school kid. And Myers picked Bachmann because she thought Bachmann was a soft target, rightly or wrongly. > > If Myers thinks she’s hot shit as a debater, why isn’t she challenging Hilary Clinton or someone like that? > > Regards, > Shodan I doubt the kid thinks she’s hot shit as a debater outside of high schoolers and their intellectual peers. And Hillary wouldn’t debate her either. And the kid doesn’t care if anyone accepts or not. It’s a no lose situation for her. She won right off the bat because she challenged a famous congresswoman to a debate, and Bachmann lost right off the bat because people are considering the possibility that she would lose. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/high-schooler-challenges-michelle-bachman-to-a-constitution-debate/582212/46 "2011-05-21T04:38:33Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > If Myers thinks she’s hot shit as a debater, why isn’t she challenging Hilary Clinton or someone like that? The point isn’t that she think’s she’s a hot shit debater, the point is she thinks that Bachmann’s reputation is so bad people think she could be beaten by a high school debater. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/high-schooler-challenges-michelle-bachman-to-a-constitution-debate/582212.md?page=2)