# Highest combined looks-talent quotient

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 16, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445 "2009-12-16T03:32:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/61 "2009-12-16T20:33:25Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> …Hugh Laurie.

There’s a difference between being charismatic and sexy and hot, and being good looking. Hugh Laurie might have a certain _je ne sais quoi_, but he’s not handsome.

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/62 "2009-12-16T20:41:12Z")

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Cillian Murphy

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**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/63 "2009-12-16T20:52:34Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> I assumed he was talking about her voice, and not her height.

I did, too. She, herself, acknowledges that her speaking voice is pretty squeaky…and, when you consider what her singing voice is like, it’s even more surprising.

Regardless, I don’t care…I have the hots for her. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/64 "2009-12-16T23:30:32Z")

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A few 10/10s who have not been mentioned:

Anne Hathaway  
Penélope Cruz  
Naomi Watts  
Halle Berry

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/65 "2009-12-17T00:05:35Z")

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Anne Hathaway definitely deserves a mention, though she might only be a 9/9.

Second Denzel Washington.

I wish Winona Ryder’s looks matched her acting, but I’ve never seen it.

How close do people think Gary Oldman is to 10 in looks? I’d rate him an 8/11 (9/11 if [you go by this](http://dietrichthrall.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/gary_oldman.jpg).)

Most people have only a brief period of looks n the 10 department; I think Leonardo DiCaprio is an example of being a 10/10 the other way.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/66 "2009-12-17T00:25:49Z")

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Fully realizing that I’m not gay and that he’s “only” a television actor whose previous work I’m ignorant of, I’d nominate **Jon Hamm**.

Also, has anybody said **Cate Blanchett** yet?

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/67 "2009-12-17T00:56:20Z")

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> [@Lakai](#):
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> A few 10/10s who have not been mentioned:
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> Anne Hathaway  
> Penélope Cruz  
> Naomi Watts  
> Halle Berry

See, looks is a double-edged sword in Hollywood. I mean, I think Michelle Pfeiffer has never gotten an Oscar because she’s too pretty to take seriously. On the other hand, Halle Berry got an Oscar just for not wearing makeup.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/68 "2009-12-17T01:00:53Z")

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I’d add Christian Bale to the 10/10 list.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/69 "2009-12-17T01:08:14Z")

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I think Brad Pitt is awesome.

I can’t believe there hasn’t been a mention of Emma Thompson.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/70 "2009-12-17T01:18:56Z")

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> [@lissener](#):
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> See, looks is a double-edged sword in Hollywood. I mean, I think Michelle Pfeiffer has never gotten an Oscar because she’s too pretty to take seriously. On the other hand, Halle Berry got an Oscar just for not wearing makeup.

I was going to prove you wrong by mentioning Jungle Fever, but I don’t think she wore makeup in that either. She’s still a good actor. Even though most of her movies suck, it’s never because of her acting.

ETA: What role do you think Pfeiffer deserves an Oscar for?

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/71 "2009-12-17T01:29:55Z")

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Never mind. Misunderstood.

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Emma Thompson, while at times attractive, isn’t beautiful, IMHO.

**Argent Towers** , although I’m a straight dude, I’d say Daniel Craig has an offhanded charm (when he cares to use it) and is handsome in a brutal kind of way. I think he’s shown both skill and dramatic range in the roles in which I’ve seen him, including both Bond films, as well as _Infamous_ and _Defiance_.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/73 "2009-12-17T02:01:51Z")

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I think Daniel Craig is right there with Nicolas Cage, Kevin Costner and John Wayne in the “can only play one kind of character - himself” category. In the context of a good movie, like _Defiance,_ it works. In the context of a bad movie like _Enduring Love,_ it doesn’t. But whatever movie he’s in, I feel he’s basically playing “Daniel Craig.” The tough brute with a heart of gold and a sensitive vulnerability underneath his rough exterior. I really do not see a great deal of range in Craig’s acting.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/74 "2009-12-17T02:11:01Z")

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> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> I assumed he was talking about her voice, and not her height.

The thread was about looks and talent, since he just called her a chipmunk I figured he was referring to her looks/size. And if he thinks a squeaky voice is all there is to her then he’s never heard her sing.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/75 "2009-12-17T02:14:43Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> I think Daniel Craig is right there with Nicolas Cage, Kevin Costner and John Wayne in the “can only play one kind of character - himself” category. In the context of a good movie, like _Defiance,_ it works. In the context of a bad movie like _Enduring Love,_ it doesn’t. But whatever movie he’s in, I feel he’s basically playing “Daniel Craig.” The tough brute with a heart of gold and a sensitive vulnerability underneath his rough exterior. I really do not see a great deal of range in Craig’s acting.

He was great, and playing against the type you mention, in [Our Friends In the North](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Friends_in_the_North) along with all the rest of the cast. Made for TV, but well worth tracking down.

From the same cast and a 10/10: Gina McKee.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/76 "2009-12-17T02:26:23Z")

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> [@WOOKINPANUB](#):
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> Paul Newman- so good in so many ways.

Add 10 points for class and we have a perfect score.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/77 "2009-12-17T03:09:14Z")

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> [@GargoyleWB](#):
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> Milla Jovovich

I’ve heard Milla Jovovich called many things… good actress is not one of them.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/78 "2009-12-17T03:57:05Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> I’ve heard Milla Jovovich called many things… good actress is not one of them.

Really? Where has she turned in a bad performance?

And while I’m nobly defending actresses, I’ll step in and say a word for Julia Roberts, who always gets attacked for something or other on these boards. Julia Roberts does good work.

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**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/79 "2009-12-17T04:19:34Z")

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> [@spoke-](#):
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> Really? Where has she turned in a bad performance?

Milla’s three [Razzie nominations](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000170/awards) aren’t exactly a ringing endorsement of her acting credentials.

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> [@HelloNinja](#):
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> I’d add Christian Bale to the 10/10 list.

Agreed. Also adding to the list the underrated Romola Garai.

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