# Highest combined looks-talent quotient **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 16, 2009, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445 "2009-12-16T03:32:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/81 "2009-12-17T06:46:08Z")
> [@The\_Urban\_Spaceman](#): > > Milla’s three [Razzie nominations](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000170/awards) aren’t exactly a ringing endorsement of her acting credentials. One of those is from when she was 21, and for her very first movie. I think she gets a pass on that one. One is for a controversial and polarizing film where some people hated her in the role and other people loved her in the role (I loved her in the role). The third one is for…THE FIFTH ELEMENT?? Get outta here! She was great in The Fifth Element. She may or may not be a great actress, I don’t know. I think she does well in what I’ve seen and I haven’t seen a lot of her movies. But, those Razzie nominations are undeserved and not worth the paper on the press release when the nominations were sent out. (full disclosure: I’m biased because I met her and she’s the sweetest person, just lovely. And I love her music.) If I were to come up with a new rating, Personality/Looks/Acting skills, Milla would be a 10/10/7 at this point. ---
**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/82 "2009-12-17T07:03:04Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > The third one is for…THE FIFTH ELEMENT?? Get outta here! She was great in The Fifth Element. Damn straight! I’ve watched that movie numerous times simply because of her. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/83 "2009-12-17T07:09:50Z")
**Catherine Zeta-Jones**. Amazingly beautiful and an Oscar winner. Also, I haven’t seen either of them lately, but I’ve always been fond of **Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio** and **Madeline Stowe**. Both are gorgeous and talented. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Urban\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@The\_Urban\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Urban_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/84 "2009-12-17T09:29:51Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > The third one is for…THE FIFTH ELEMENT?? Get outta here! She was great in The Fifth Element. OK, the nomination for _The Fifth Element_ was admittedly unfair. She’s certainly seems to have improved since _The Return to the Blue Lagoon_, the [trailer](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hX8MRXimH4g) for which has to be the single most emetic 1 minute and 41 seconds of film committed to celluloid that I can think of. And I’m including 2g1c. I still don’t feel she’s comparable to acting greatness however. Her music, though not my cup of tea, gets a pass. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/85 "2009-12-17T15:28:28Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > Fully realizing that I’m not gay and that he’s “only” a television actor whose previous work I’m ignorant of, I’d nominate **Jon Hamm**. > > Also, has anybody said **Cate Blanchett** yet? I did. Post 58. I would also submit Julianne Moore. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/86 "2009-12-17T15:30:23Z")
> [@The\_Urban\_Spaceman](#): > > Milla’s three [Razzie nominations](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000170/awards) aren’t exactly a ringing endorsement of her acting credentials. I note that for two of the same performances for which she was given Razzie awards (_The Fifth Element, Resident Evil_), she was also awarded **Best** Actress awards (the Saturn award for performance in a science fiction film). :dubious: Milla’s performance in _The Fifth Element_ was remarkable. (I haven’t seen _Resident Evil_.) The Razzies are a joke. ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/87 "2009-12-17T15:46:33Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > I did. Post 58. > I would also submit Julianne Moore. I know. I was joking. About 10 people mentioned her in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/88 "2009-12-17T16:07:20Z")
I loved Milla Jovovich in _Joan of Arc_ - it was the great Dustin Hoffman who stunk up that particular flick. On the basis of that alone I’ll rate her a talented actress. I also think Brad Pitt is talented but “phones in” a lot of his work. When he gets a good part, he definitely makes the most of it. ---
**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/89 "2009-12-17T19:16:15Z")
I’ll also add Amy Adams and Marisa Tomei to the list. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/90 "2009-12-17T19:28:34Z")
> [@HelloNinja](#): > > I’ll also add Amy Adams and Marisa Tomei to the list. Good call. For Amy Adams, see _Junebug_ and _Doubt_. For Marisa Tomei, see _Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead_ and _The Wrestler_. ---
**Author:** ![Chum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@Chum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chum)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/91 "2009-12-17T19:44:41Z")
I’ll second Christian Bale, Jude Law, Paul Newman, Marlon Brando, Cate Blanchett, and Kate Winslet. I’d be interested to see how many lowest combined looks-talent quotient folks we could come up with. I can’t even think of any I’d call a 1/1. ---
**Author:** ![Wargamer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@Wargamer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wargamer)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/92 "2009-12-17T19:49:23Z")
Are we half way through Page 2 and nobody has mentioned Robert Redford? ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/93 "2009-12-17T19:53:53Z")
> [@Chum](#): > > I’ll second Christian Bale, Jude Law, Paul Newman, Marlon Brando, Cate Blanchett, and Kate Winslet. > > I’d be interested to see how many lowest combined looks-talent quotient folks we could come up with. I can’t even think of any I’d call a 1/1. I don’t know about 1/1 but there’s a few in this thread that would get low marks from me. Winona Ryder? Wholly unappealing to me. Ditto Vigo Mortensen. (Not offense meant to those that nominated them) ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/94 "2009-12-17T19:54:54Z")
> [@Chum](#): > > I’d be interested to see how many lowest combined looks-talent quotient folks we could come up with. I can’t even think of any I’d call a 1/1. Do they have to have been stars? I was watching Our Vines Have Tender Grapes the other night and was thinking what a crappy actor [Jackie “Butch” Jenkins](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butch_Jenkins) was. Apparently some people thought he was cute, but he grossed me out, especially in National Velvet when he kept talking about throwing up and killing bugs. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/95 "2009-12-17T19:55:16Z")
> [@woodstockbirdybird](#): > > I know. I was joking. About 10 people mentioned her in this thread. Somehow I managed to miss every single one of them:confused: ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/96 "2009-12-17T19:59:34Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I loved Milla Jovovich in _Joan of Arc_… It was actually called _The Messenger_, IIRC. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/97 "2009-12-17T20:06:51Z")
> [@spoke-](#): > > Really? Where has she turned in a bad performance? > > And while I’m nobly defending actresses, I’ll step in and say a word for Julia Roberts, who always gets attacked for something or other on these boards. Julia Roberts does good work. I think Julia is one of those A-list actors who is very good at playing herself (like Jack Nicholson). Even her oscar-winning performance was Julia with blond hair, a push-up bra, and a more abrasive attitude than usual. An actress who I think doesn’t get enough respect is Jennifer Lopez. She’s done some very good work, and never looks like she’s acting. She’s okay looking, too. ---
**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/98 "2009-12-20T00:06:26Z")
Brad Pitt was my immediate thought on reading the thread title. After mulling it over for a day or two, I’ll add Tom Cruise to the list. Crazy as a shithouse rat, but the guy can definitely act. And he was a huge sex symbol before his crazy spilled all over Orca’s couch. ---
**Author:** ![MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MPB\_in\_Salt\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MPB_in_Salt_Lake)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/99 "2009-12-20T01:21:33Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > **Catherine Zeta-Jones**. Amazingly beautiful and an Oscar winner. > > Also, I haven’t seen either of them lately, but I’ve always been fond of **Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio** and **Madeline Stowe**. Both are gorgeous and talented. I have long thought that Madeline Stowe is the most physically stunning woman I have ever seen. She reminds me of royalty (like a Russian countess from long ago) and is truly sublime in her beauty… ---
**Author:** ![Lethal\_Babydoll](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3be4f8/32.png) [@Lethal\_Babydoll](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lethal_Babydoll)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2009, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445/100 "2009-12-20T02:38:36Z")
Another vote for **Julie Christie** as a 10/10. i don’t understand why her career just seemed to end in the 80s. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highest-combined-looks-talent-quotient/521445.md?page=6)