# Highlander 2, Star Trek V, and other things that didn't happen **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [November 10, 2003, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318 "2003-11-10T01:02:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Kiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Kiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiger)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/101 "2003-11-17T14:53:38Z")
There are rumors about a movie called Battlefield Earth, but don’t believe them. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/102 "2003-11-17T15:51:16Z")
I loved the part of Return of the Jedi where they are on the Wookie homeworld. Seeing those 7 foot tall aliens kick ass was great. I heard a rumor Lucas wanted to change it and introduce something called an “Ewok”. How could a bunch of teddy bears take on the empire? Thank God Lucas came to his senses ---
**Author:** ![Marvel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marvel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvel)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/103 "2003-11-17T15:53:12Z")
Joel never left the S.O.L. and the Mads are still in Gizmonics Institute (NOT Deep 13). Patty ---
**Author:** ![Marvel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/779978/32.png) [@Marvel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvel)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/104 "2003-11-17T16:17:29Z")
Oh, and mambozzy… Atlas Shrugged? I’ve never heard of such a thing. Then again, who in their right mind would compose a lenthy text chuck full of two-dimential characters where only the “good guys” possess any reasoning skills whatsoever and an ending so trite that it was laughable. Nope, never would get published… ---
**Author:** ![Gawain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Gawain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gawain)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/105 "2003-11-17T16:53:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Alessan \* > \*\*It’s good that Roger Zelazny never fell into the same trap as other SF authors and started writing follow-ups to his stories. I mean, consider the **Amber** series - five perfect books. Absolutely no need to add anything. \*\* Furthermore, it’s good to know that the people in charge of his estate would never allow some unknown hack to write a series of Amber prequels. I mean, Roger himself clearly stated that he never wanted any other authors writing in the Amber universe (multiverse?), and I’m positive that they would never profane his memory that way. Also, a few years ago I attended the San Diego comics convention and at a DC panel I mentioned that I hoped they weren’t thinking of doing a sequel to Frank Miller’s excellent _The Dark Knight Returns_. They assured me that they weren’t even considering something like that, and I was so relieved I didn’t mind the few snickers I heard in the audience implying that I was an idiot for even suggesting such a thing. Thank God they’re intelligent enough to stand by that. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/106 "2003-11-17T16:54:46Z")
> [@](#): > > There are rumors about a movie called Battlefield Earth, but don’t believe them. Well, of course not! I mean, aren’t movies usually based on a book? There wasn’t a _Battlefield Earth_ book, either. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/107 "2003-11-17T17:55:01Z")
You know, just the other day I was thinking how lucky we are that nobody ever triple-posted in some obscure scalar-weapons thread. ---
**Author:** ![congodwarf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@congodwarf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/congodwarf)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/108 "2003-11-17T17:58:56Z")
Thank god no one ever considered a remake of The Shining. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/109 "2003-11-17T18:06:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Coldfire \* > **[Queensrÿche’s last album was _Promised Land_ (1994).** [Hijack] This is probably better suited for Cafe Society, but I wholeheartedly disagree here. _Hear in the Now Frontier_ was a very good album. Granted, it was not their typical style, and paled in comparison to Mindcrime or Promised Land (my favorite album). I would put it on the level of _Empire_. Some songs were great, some were merely passable. It was definitely more risky than Empire. Whereas Empire had all sorts of catch radio-friendly tunes, I believe only two from Hear… were ever released as singles. The album was Queensryche showing that they could record something different from what people expected. It was an exploration and one that I felt largely succeeded. Plus, you got to hear Chris Degamo sing lead vocals for the first (and only) time in a song. Although Chris has a completely different style than Geoff Tate, it was well done. ---
**Author:** ![Buddy353](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Buddy353](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buddy353)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/110 "2003-11-17T18:33:53Z")
I wonder if the Godfather could use a third installment? ---
**Author:** ![MacSpon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@MacSpon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacSpon)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/111 "2003-11-17T19:43:01Z")
Man, there was a long delay between _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ and _Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade_, wasn’t there? Too bad they didn’t make another Indy film in between. On the other hand, it meant they could take the extra time to get _Crusade_ right. I once had a nightmare that Ursula Le Guin wrote a bunch of sequels to the _Earthsea_ trilogy. Thank God I was wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/112 "2003-11-17T20:07:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jennorCOTG \* > **Sorry, but Im standing up for Alien 3, and the Bond went from Roger Moore to Pierce Brosnan.** You can’t really fault Dalton too much for that. The character of Bond was overhauled to be a “kinder, gentler” James. I mean really, the way I remembered it, Bond took out Maryam D’Abo’s sniper character with one well placed shot between the eyes. Amateur or not, she should know better than to play with those who know the right side of a gun from a wrong one. > [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by elf6c \* > \*\* > X-files went off the air when David D. left to do movies (badly). \*\* Yeah, but you can’t fault Robert Patrick for trying. He did an admirable job considering what he was given to work with. The way I remembered it, Morgan and Wong wrote all the episodes, and the mytharc was nicely wrapped up at the end of season 3. I’m really looking forward to them making a sequel to _Men in Black_, though. It’s been much too long since the first one came out based on standard Hollywood time delay. Generally they just try to rush these things out to cash in on the success of the first one. I bet they really do have one planned. They just want to take the time to make sure it’s a sequel worthy of the original. ---
**Author:** ![Abe\_User](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Abe\_User](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Abe_User)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/113 "2003-11-17T21:02:49Z")
Roger Daltry and Pete Townsend died before they got old. The Rolling Stones got some satisfaction, and retired in 1975. The Final Cut was Pink Floyd’s last album. The Grateful Dead died with Jerry. and Jimmy Page **never** played with Puff Daddy. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/114 "2003-11-17T22:11:24Z")
Star Wars would never do any type of TV Holiday Special. ---
**Author:** ![kazrak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@kazrak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kazrak)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/115 "2003-11-17T22:32:10Z")
Orson Scott Card wrote the excellent **Ender’s Game** , and then a decent sequel, **Speaker for the Dead** , and then decided that, yeah, there were some loose ends in Speaker, but it wasn’t really critical to resolve them. I’ve heard that he went back and wrote some newer books set in between those two, but haven’t gotten around to reading them. He certainly never wrote a couple awful books that were set after Speaker. Nope. Never. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d26b3c/32.png) [@Mr.Blue\_Sky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Blue_Sky)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/116 "2003-11-17T22:57:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hoopy Frood \* > **Yeah, but you can’t fault Robert Patrick for trying. He did an admirable job considering what he was given to work with.** I agree. I think Patrick got the shaft. He’s a pretty decent actor. ---
**Author:** ![SpacemanSpiff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@SpacemanSpiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpacemanSpiff)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/117 "2003-11-17T23:13:18Z")
I had this really strange nightmare the other nigt that someone had done a live action version of “How the Grinch Stole Christmas”! Luckily, I awoke in time to realize that this Jim Carrey fellow never existed… Boris Karloff still did the narration… And nobody had ever thought of doing a live action version of a Dr. Seuss classic. Especially not with Mike Myers. I never ever saw (or even heard of a movie) called “Dude, Where’s my Car”. Even if I did, I would never think to watch it because it might be stupid funny. And even if I did watch it, it wouldn’t lower my IQ 50 points and leave me incomprehensible for a month. I’ve never heard the phrase “If it does not fit, you must acquit.” And wasn’t it really a shame that OJ didn’t get off on a technicality… I’m sure he was innocent. Too bad, huh? Finally… Geraldo Rivera… Need I say more? ---
**Author:** ![JThunder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e95f7d/32.png) [@JThunder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JThunder)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/118 "2003-11-17T23:33:32Z")
Courteney Cox never married David Arquette. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Scrivener](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@The\_Scrivener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Scrivener)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2003, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/119 "2003-11-17T23:35:49Z")
Bob Dylan never converted (however briefly) to Christianity. Paul McCartney never did “Give My Regards to Broad Street”. Andy Partridge never had stage fright. Kurt Cobain took Prozac instead of heroin. The very concept of the Bond flicks “The Man With the Golden Gun” and “Moonraker” is actually a mass delusion/hypnosis thingy, engineered by SMERSH, to discredit the Bond franchise. 😉 When John Boorman gave the “Zardoz” script to Connery, they shared a big horselaugh over it as one of the worst film ideas ever. Coca-Cola never monkeyed with their formula. Michael Jackson never had plastic surgery, and Melanie Griffith never had collagen injections. John Travolta never became a Scientologist. JFK never went to Dallas. Congress never classified SUVs as light trucks, nor passed the “SUV” fifteen-grand tax break. ---
**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2003, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318/120 "2003-11-18T00:32:30Z")
Thank goodness the whole “sequel” thing is a modern invention. At the root of all this is some greedy Hollywood-type who has just got to milk an idea for one last dollar … What if, in the old days, they had done this. As a case in point, take the Beowulf saga. That was a great story of how the hero took on the monster Grendel. Now imagine the Hollywood sequel where Beowulf is set upon by … oh, I don’t know what would be lame? Ah! How about Grendel’s _mom_!! Ha ha ha ha ha! Imagine that! And because that somehow managed to sell, they’d even make another sequel, although it’d probably be a number of years later before they could get over the stink of the first sequel. By this time the actor playing Beowulf would be much older so they’d have to invent some hairbrained way of getting the “old Beowulf” out of retirement. This would be as paintful as watching today’s Sean Connery in a new Bond movie. And who would Beowulf fight, having done in Grendel’s whole family? Oh, I got it, let’s bring in a monster from a completely different mythos, like a _dragon_!! Ha! But then the actor playing Beowulf would probably die halfway through and they’d have to come up with some half-assed ending because they sure as hell wouldn’t cancel the production! Thank goodness none of _that_ ever happened!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/highlander-2-star-trek-v-and-other-things-that-didnt-happen/212318.md?page=7)