Subscribing to the dictates of (any) organized religion is voluntary oppression.
Except it’s not so voluntary if leaving the religion means you may face violence, and you will at minimum be shunned by your entire kinship group.
I too cosign post 53.
Manda Jo, I’m with TooManyCats. I do believe some of the things you mention are indeed oppressive. My wife is a high school special education teacher, but she is also the case manager for her students. So for instance today she had to lead a meeting involving various administrators and officials from other area agencies to tackle a tough problem involving one of those students. This is a professional, white collar situation where everyone attending has a masters degree or greater; the men are generally wearing suits, and the women are definitely expected to wear professional attire.
But she never wears makeup (and she looks great without it, BTW). She doesn’t even own any, not even lip gloss (just Burt’s Bees chapstick). Nor does she own heels or anything but comfortable shoes (not sneakers, but comfortable flats). And she does not wear dresses or skirts except perhaps to a wedding. As far as we know, this hasn’t negatively impacted her career. But if it did, I would absolutely argue that it is wrong and oppressive.
Many people say this, but I don’t see a lot of evidence supporting the claim. I think this argument is a case of proceeding from one’s conclusions: “I can’t say there is anything wrong with someone’s religion, because that’s just…not what you are supposed to do. So there must be some other reason.”
Then we really don’t have a significant disagreement.
It doesn’t.
What are you responding to? Who said that conservative American white men have a monopoly on racist and sexist attitudes?
In any case, a statement like that is often a red herring. Conservative American white men hold the majority of power in our country, politically, socially, economically, etc.
In any specific individual’s life, anyone can oppress you with racism and sexism, in society as a whole the collective racism and sexism of conservative American white men oppress everyone all the time.
I don’t see liberal commentators shouting about how Rep. Ilhan Omar’s hijab is unconstitutional. Find me one.
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And personal protection items. Those are important.
I remember an article in Chemical and Engineering News talking about changes brought to the Chemical industry in the previous 30 years; this would have been c. 1998. Several of them mentioned being told to wear heels (none by a direct manager) when in jobs where the dress code did in fact call for them but safety called for quite the opposite. My own employer in Philadelphia still had in the early naughts a policy calling for women to always wear skirts below the knee regardless of post occupied, and I just have to repoint you to the story of How The Dress Code Was Defeated.
Is anyone saying that?
That sure is a stupid & bigoted remark, but to say she is calling it unconstitutional is a big stretch.
Fox News disagrees with you.
And for which I am honored and happy.
…do you have any context you would like to add to that ridiculous cite that would be worthy of a bump?
It’s kind of silly (and some of those tweets made valid points), but it doesn’t really bother me.
Why is an opinion piece by an atheist and anti-theist who’s not an expert on theology relevant to the discussion? I don’t see anything he said that hasn’t already been stated in this thread or that carries any more weight than any opinion expressed here. If I missed something, perhaps you’d be so kind as to tell us what that might be.
Also, the subject of his essay (namely, the inclusion of a hijabi burqini-clad model in the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue) could be fairly described as muddying the waters, no pun intended.
I mean, come on, if we’re talking about sexist degradation of women, the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue is a case study all on its own.* There’s even a (rather weak IMHO) case to be made that a SISI model** in non-revealing clothing counts as some form of feminist pushback against male demands to see women portrayed as mere wank-bank objects of nudity.
*Personally, I have no objection in principle to any consenting adults voluntarily choosing to get their kit off for the camera or looking at photos of other consenting adults having done so. But it would be ridiculous to pretend that this whole cultural phenomenon isn’t heavily enmeshed in practice with various forms of oppressive sexism.
**And for everybody who is thinking about trying to make some dumb joke about “SISI” and “ISIS” because the model in question is Muslim, here’s your :rolleyes:.