# Hilary Clinton and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mail Account **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 3, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092 "2015-03-03T14:10:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 28
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/541 "2015-03-31T16:37:04Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It isn’t a matter of our oversensitivity, just a matter of noting that the use of the word as an adjective by a Republican is _intended_ as an insult even if we don’t take it as one, and therefore indicates that the speaker’s maturity level is below that which demands respect. That’s wonderful. You don’t take its use as an insult, and I don’t intend it as an insult. A problem that didn’t exist, seems to be solved. And just to keep this post thread related, the investigation of Hilary Clinton and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mail Account continues. Is there any chance that Hillary will ever, fully, cooperate with the investigation? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/542 "2015-03-31T16:39:31Z")
They were told to be sensitive about the most minor insult ever, so they dutifully take offense. Republicans meanwhile, don’t even bother to get insulted at “Repugs”, “Rethuglicans”, “Teabaggers”, etc. We already recognize that our opponents lack maturity. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/543 "2015-03-31T16:43:42Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > They were told to be sensitive about the most minor insult ever, so they dutifully take offense. Republicans meanwhile, don’t even bother to get insulted at “Repugs”, “Rethuglicans”, “Teabaggers”, etc. We already recognize that our opponents lack maturity. We make up for it with brains and compassion. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/544 "2015-03-31T16:50:18Z")
Brains I’ll give you. I’m constantly ashamed at how stupid my side can be sometimes. I won’t give you independence. You guys are smart enough to not parrot talking points. I expect that from the more ignorant members of my side. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/545 "2015-03-31T17:01:41Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > They were told to be sensitive about the most minor insult ever, so they dutifully take offense. Republicans meanwhile, don’t even bother to get insulted at “Repugs”, “Rethuglicans”, “Teabaggers”, etc. We already recognize that our opponents lack maturity. The difference, of course, is that those epithets are not used by our elected representatives on the floor of Congress. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/546 "2015-03-31T17:32:31Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Republicans meanwhile, don’t even bother to get insulted at “Repugs”, “Rethuglicans”, “Teabaggers”, etc. We already recognize that our opponents lack maturity. As evidenced by the fact that “Teabaggers” was _their own invention._😉 > [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > I’ve described the reaction to use of the term Democrat as oversensitive. However, I myself have not used that term in this thread. > > Now think about it. All I have to do is read your own damn posts, which do indeed use that term. You do know they’re out there for everyone to see, don’t you? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/547 "2015-03-31T17:34:59Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I don’t intend it as an insult. Then why \*do \*you use it? Merely an non-native-speaker’s understanding of English grammar? That’s easily fixed, if that’s all it is. > [@](#): > > Is there any chance that Hillary will ever, fully, cooperate with the investigation? Is there any chance of a Republican investigation into her being legitimate? Or even effective at its \*true \*purpose? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/548 "2015-03-31T17:36:23Z")
If there’s nothing to it, cooperation would end it. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/549 "2015-03-31T17:40:18Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > IMO the Democratics on this board are being over-sensitive. I chuckled. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/550 "2015-03-31T17:48:06Z")
CNN reports that Clinton lied. Again. > **[Source: Clinton used iPad for personal email at State | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2015/03/31/politics/hillary-clinton-ipad-e-mail-devices/index.html)** > > Hillary Clinton emailed her staff with multiple devices while serving as secretary of state, according to a source with knowledge of the emails, a revelation that raises questions about a main defense Clinton has used in her email controversy. More of that right-wing media. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/551 "2015-03-31T17:49:40Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > If there’s nothing to it, cooperation would end it. Of course it would. 😃 You know better. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/552 "2015-03-31T17:51:11Z")
I meant it would end the controversy. Politicians hide things because they have something to hide. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/553 "2015-03-31T17:52:49Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > I meant it would end the controversy. Of course it would. 😃 > [@](#): > > Politicians hide things because they have something to hide. You know better than _that_. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/554 "2015-03-31T17:59:50Z")
> [@Fotheringay-Phipps](#): > > You are confused about this issue too. You could ask your English teacher about nouns and adjectives if you don’t believe me. Or you could continue pouting and reflexively denying everything you’re told - it’s your choice. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/555 "2015-03-31T18:39:56Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Then why \*do \*you use it? Merely an non-native-speaker’s understanding of English grammar? That’s easily fixed, if that’s all it is. > > Is there any chance of a Republican investigation into her being legitimate? Or even effective at its \*true \*purpose? It has a nice ring to it. 😃 People still seem to know which group I’m referring. I also mispel “embareass”. Republican’s are investigating Hillary? I’m in favor of investigations. I’m in favor of politicians being fully cooperative with investigations. I’m not in favor of those who suggest that Hillary shouldn’t be investigated. (I’ve got an off-topic suggestion, maybe you could look into conducting a poll to see if the SDMB should become the word police?) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/556 "2015-03-31T18:42:36Z")
Just keep on yelling “Benghazi!” for the next year and a half, please. Maybe by then it will start to work, right? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/557 "2015-03-31T19:05:30Z")
I think it’s more important to publically point out that Hillary, repeatedly, does not fully cooperate with investigations. It’s only the independents that are in play. Do they want a President who ignores Congressional investigations, and acts as if she’s above the law? Isn’t that what elections are for? For “We The Voters” to decide who each of us, as individuals, believe would best meet our individual standards? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/558 "2015-03-31T19:10:47Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I think it’s more important to publically point out that Hillary, repeatedly, does not fully cooperate with investigations. You _know_ why. Tell us. \*Show \*you know why. > [@](#): > > Do they want a President who ignores Congressional investigations, and acts as if she’s above the law? By “Congressional”, you mean “Republican”. Don’t pretend. And “investigations” is not an accurate term, either. But you know that too, don’t you? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/559 "2015-03-31T20:40:46Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > . . . I’m in favor of investigations. I’m in favor of politicians being fully cooperative with investigations. I’m not in favor of those who suggest that Hillary shouldn’t be investigated. . . . Investigations are good…when based upon probable cause. Without that, they are politically-motivated fishing expeditions, and no one should be compelled to “cooperate” with their own harassment. Eric Holder went through the same thing: Congress demanded to see all of his files, even those not relevant to the controversy that was supposedly under investigation. Holder, very rightly, told them no. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2015, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/560 "2015-03-31T22:11:14Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You _know_ why. Tell us. \*Show \*you know why. > > By “Congressional”, you mean “Republican”. Don’t pretend. > > And “investigations” is not an accurate term, either. But you know that too, don’t you? Hahahaha. By “Congressional”, I mean “Congressional”. You can interpret your fantasies any way you wish. “Investigations” is an accurate term. It’s use does not require your permission, or that you agree. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092.md?page=27) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092.md?page=29)