# Hilary Clinton and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mail Account

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 3, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092 "2015-03-03T14:10:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/601 "2015-04-02T21:13:21Z")

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Yes, the attempts by the latest Benghazi Committee to obtain Secretary Clinton’s emails. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2015, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/602 "2015-04-02T21:35:00Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Well, SOMEONE’S Clinton Derangement Syndrome is still going strong…

Rein that in, jayjay.

That goes for everyone else, too. Nothing even remotely like an insult towards another poster. Members of Congress? By God, yes. Clinton? Certainly. Other posters. No.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 9:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/603 "2015-04-07T09:36:31Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> If Hilary Clinton thinks responding to investigations of her mistakes with “fuck you” is politically astute, then I encourage her to continue

By the eighth investigation, and having been completely cleared by the previous seven, I think “fuck you” is a perfectly reasonable response.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/604 "2015-04-07T13:09:36Z")

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You have a funny definition of the word “cleared”. Do you think her husband was cleared in all of the investigations against him?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/605 "2015-04-07T13:26:13Z")

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Mostly, yes, and the one where he wasn’t was contrived by the investigators. You could look it up.

If you think more of the same will finally be a winning strategy for you, then please continue, by all means.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/606 "2015-04-07T13:39:57Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> By the eighth investigation, and having been completely cleared by the previous seven, I think “fuck you” is a perfectly reasonable response.

Then again, I would strongly encourage Ms. Clinton to so respond to all further questions, investigations, and subpoenas, especially during the campaign.

"Ms. Clinton, you were under subpoena for all e-mails that were on your private server and in violation of official policy. Instead of responding, you wiped the server clean. Do you think that was appropriate?

“Fuck you.”

That will certainly save time during the debates, if any.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/607 "2015-04-07T13:42:01Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Mostly, yes, and the one where he wasn’t was contrived by the investigators. You could look it up.
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> If you think more of the same will finally be a winning strategy for you, then please continue, by all means.

I recall a candidate Obama actually got a ton of mileage out of subtly reminding people about Clinton’s drama, and his lack thereof. Oh, it’s a working strategy if you’re smart about it. Obama was. He knew exactly how to exploit her weaknesses.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/608 "2015-04-07T15:34:09Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Then again, I would strongly encourage Ms. Clinton to so respond to all further questions, investigations, and subpoenas, especially during the campaign.
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> "Ms. Clinton, you were under subpoena for all e-mails that were on your private server and in violation of official policy. Instead of responding, you wiped the server clean. Do you think that was appropriate?
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> “Fuck you.”
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> That will certainly save time during the debates, if any.
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Well, it worked for Dick Cheney. Multiple times.

Or she could go with the [Alberto Gonzalez “Instant Alzheimers” approach](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIgbJSrIvWc). That seems to have worked too.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/609 "2015-04-07T15:55:45Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> By the eighth investigation, and having been completely cleared by the previous seven, I think “fuck you” is a perfectly reasonable response.

Hahahaha. Completely cleared? Hilary Clinton’s Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mails were not produced for ANY of the previous investigations. The investigators didn’t even know they existed. Probably because Hillary, and her State Dept. friends, were too busy finding ways to not fully cooperating with the investigations.

_“As far as I can see”, said the blind man, “There is nothing to see here. Move along, move along.”_

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/610 "2015-04-07T15:58:18Z")

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That’s just how things were in Ol’ Hillary’s Ol’ State Department, huh?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/611 "2015-04-07T16:02:05Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Hahahaha. Completely cleared? Hilary Clinton’s Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mails were not produced for ANY of the previous investigations. The investigators didn’t even know they existed. Probably because Hillary, and her State Dept. friends, were too busy finding ways to not fully cooperating with the investigations.
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> _“As far as I can see”, said the blind man, “There is nothing to see here. Move along, move along.”_

So…remind me again about the outcomes of the first seven Benghazi investigations?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/612 "2015-04-07T16:38:19Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> So…remind me again about the outcomes of the first seven Benghazi investigations?

Since Sec. of State Hillary Clinton’s Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mails were not part of ANY of the other investigation, because they were deliberately kept hidden from the investigators, I would say the other investigations should be considered inconclusive. At least by me. Fanboy opinions may vary, of course.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/613 "2015-04-07T16:43:31Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Since Sec. of State Hillary Clinton’s Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mails were not part of ANY of the other investigation, because they were deliberately kept hidden from the investigators, I would say the other investigations should be considered inconclusive. At least by me. Fanboy opinions may vary, of course.

Apparently, “didn’t find any evidence of wrongdoing” is inconclusive to **doorhinge**. Or is this just for liberals?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/614 "2015-04-07T16:47:06Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> That’s just how things were in Ol’ Hillary’s Ol’ State Department, huh?

What do the facts suggest? Hillary’s emails were not a part of the previous investigations. That’s a fact. It appears that Ol’ Hillary’s Ol’ State Dept. knows how non-transparency can be manipulated to her advantage.

If the investigators had stopped asking questions when Hillary’s fans demanded that they stop asking questions, We the Voters wouldn’t know about Hilary Clinton and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mail Account.

I believe that asking questions is a good thing.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/615 "2015-04-07T17:32:48Z")

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Is fishing for something you can use in campaign attacks also a good thing?

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/616 "2015-04-07T19:25:23Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Is fishing for something you can use in campaign attacks also a good thing?

Ol’ Hillary’s Sec. of State emails were not included in the previous investigations.

Should those emails have been included in the previous investigations?

Or does Ol’ Hillary enjoy some Pre-Presidential Privilege that We the Voters are unaware of?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/617 "2015-04-07T19:29:55Z")

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Whaddaya got by way of probable cause?

And are you going to answer the question previously asked?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/618 "2015-04-07T20:02:48Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Ol’ Hillary’s Sec. of State emails were not included in the previous investigations.
> 
> Should those emails have been included in the previous investigations? . . .

Do you have probable cause to include them? Do you have any evidence regarding their contents?

With the Nixon White House Tapes, for instance, Congress had evidence given to it as to what the tapes would contain, and they had this before they ever subpoenaed the tapes. They had to.

Does Congress have anything comparable today? Or do they just want Clinton’s tapes because they might contain something of interest?

I’d like to search your house. No probable cause, just because I might find something.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/619 "2015-04-07T20:20:26Z")

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Well, that was basically how the Whitewater/Blue Dress investigation went…no real probable cause for anything, lots of desperate fishing for SOMETHING. It seems the Republicans’ Clinton Investigatory Machine only has one mode.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/620 "2015-04-07T20:33:48Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> I’d like to search your house. No probable cause, just because I might find something.

Do you have a subpoena?

Regards,  
Shodan

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