# Hilary Clinton and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mail Account **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 3, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092 "2015-03-03T14:10:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 36
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/701 "2015-04-08T19:07:39Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I would have issued a stern demand that they not attack the consulate. :mad: And you would have done it by secret e-mail. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/702 "2015-04-08T19:08:57Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You have yet to get the answer you’d \*like \*to have. But yes, we have found out why. You could too if you wanted to. Go ahead. Explain the State Dept. actions leading up to the day of the attack, and the State Dept. actions after the attack. You could also explain why Congress isn’t allowed to see what government documents are on Ol’ Hillary’s private server. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/703 "2015-04-08T19:10:03Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > There is a Congressional report about Benghazi that would answer all your questions. What unanswered questions remain? Where is Hillary Clinton’s long-form email? The fact that they have found nothing to implicate her just shows how deep the corruption runs! Grassy consulate! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/704 "2015-04-08T19:10:46Z")
You \*could \*actually read the reports. Ever considered it? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/705 "2015-04-08T19:10:50Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > There is a Congressional report about Benghazi that would answer all your questions. What unanswered questions remain? Does the report include the emails that were hidden on Ol’ Hillary’s private server? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/706 "2015-04-08T19:11:12Z")
_Please_ keep making this about Benghazi, conservatives. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/707 "2015-04-08T19:15:59Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Does the report include the emails that were hidden on Ol’ Hillary’s private server? So that would be “No, I _haven’t_ read anything that wouldn’t contain the conclusion I wish it would”. Gotcha. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/708 "2015-04-08T19:18:02Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > So that would be “No, I _haven’t_ read anything that wouldn’t contain the conclusion I wish it would”. Gotcha. And you would be wrong. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/709 "2015-04-08T19:25:16Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > _Please_ keep making this about Benghazi, conservatives. I thought this thread was about Ol’ Hillary refusing to fully cooperate with Congressional investigators? That’s OK. Ol’ Hillary will soon be given another chance to tell Congressional investigators, and We the Voters that we don’t deserve to know what government employees, such as herself, are doing on the taxpayers dime. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/710 "2015-04-08T19:28:28Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I thought this thread was about Ol’ Hillary refusing to fully cooperate with Congressional investigators? No, it’s about telling yet another Republican fishing trip to fuck off. And it’s about their Benghazi obsession too. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/711 "2015-04-08T19:40:05Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > _Please_ keep making this about Benghazi, conservatives. [Please proceed, conservatives.](https://youtu.be/cFwtuInlMew?t=19) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/712 "2015-04-08T19:47:33Z")
They just keep on digging through that pile, convinced there’s a pony in there somewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/713 "2015-04-08T20:21:06Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > I know that your post is a week old, but I keeping seeing “probable cause” being thrown around. What gives you the idea that Congress requires “probable cause” to issue a subpoena? It’s necessary if they want a judge to uphold it. Otherwise, it’s just a polite request, which can be politely declined. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/714 "2015-04-08T20:22:38Z")
Or a \*rude \*request, which can be \*rudely \*declined. As is the case here. ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/715 "2015-04-08T20:28:08Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Congressional Oversight of Government serves a valid legislative purpose. That’s an interesting phrase. In principle, yes, it does. Now…what are the limitations and parameters? You can’t just yell, “Congressional Oversight of Government” and then send a U-Haul trailer to demand every file in every department in the entire administration. The principle doesn’t allow Congress to read every email ever sent by every cabinet member. I might just as well say “Executive Privilege” and pretend it exempts the President from any such Oversight. Dueling slogans. The courts have already put down a number of guidelines, during the Watergate and Whitewater investigations. Demanding Clinton’s entire email record goes outside of those established guidelines. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/716 "2015-04-08T21:26:31Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > I thought this thread was about Ol’ Hillary refusing to fully cooperate with Congressional investigators? Actually it was about Hillary keeping her State emails on a private server. But now it isn’t, and the more you try to tie this to Benghazi the less people will pay attention. This is a scandal in its own right, but everybody knows that Benghazi wasn’t. So if you tie this to that - as conservatives have been doing - you make everyone assume there’s no scandal here either. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/717 "2015-04-08T21:30:42Z")
> [@Trinopus](#): > > It’s necessary if they want a judge to uphold it. Not correct. In most cases, the Judicial branch declines to intervene at all, leaving it alone as a “political question” that is outside of their purview. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/718 "2015-04-08T21:57:07Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Yes, it did. Questions asked, questions answered, it’s a simple concept. Hillary doesn’t have to appear transparent. Her fans don’t care. What difference does it make, now. Right? 😉 > > \*March 14, 2015 > In the GOP’s weekly address to the nation, Rep. Susan Brooks, R-Ind., said an independent arbiter should review the contents of the server to determine which emails should be made public. > > “Right now there is no way for us to know whether we have all of the State Department communications that rightfully belong to the American people,” Brooks said. “The only way to truly know is by having access to Secretary Clinton’s personal server.” > > Brooks is a member of a special House committee created to investigate the Sept. 11, 2012 terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. > > It was the Benghazi panel, Brooks said in her address, that led to the discovery of Clinton’s personal computer server and her decision to hand over some of the emails\*. > > [http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-republicans-call-on-hillary-clinton-to-hand-over-email-server/article/2561516](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/house-republicans-call-on-hillary-clinton-to-hand-over-email-server/article/2561516) She followed the laws in place at the time. And your devotion to Behghazi as a scandal only shows that you’re very poorly informed by RW media. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/719 "2015-04-08T22:12:17Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > She followed the laws in place at the time. “There’s no controlling legal authority”, right? Where have we heard that before? ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/720 "2015-04-08T22:22:05Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > “There’s no controlling legal authority”, right? Where have we heard that before? So you admit that there was no requirement for her to use a state server? I just want to be clear that you’re lambasting her for doing nothing wrong. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092.md?page=35) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092.md?page=37)