# Hilary Clinton and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mail Account **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 3, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092 "2015-03-03T14:10:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 44
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/861 "2015-04-15T19:26:53Z")
Yeah, why do you figure that is? ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/862 "2015-04-15T19:30:00Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > …And yes, sure, Hillary should appear in front of the committee and answer the questions that are relevant about Benghazi. I mean, it’s already been done. Once more can’t hurt. I’m sure they’ll find some skirt-lifting to do, too. (post shortened and underline added) Are you saying that the Congressional investigators have already asked questions about Hillary’s Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mail Account during the other Congressional investigations? You should notify Hillary that she no longer has to appear because you’ve found a loophole. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/863 "2015-04-15T19:32:48Z")
> [@](#): > > Yeah, why do you figure that is? Because she ignored subpoenas and lied about her official activities. So far. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/864 "2015-04-15T19:35:22Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Yeah, why do you figure that is? Because you haven’t been very convincing? Trying speaking with a more authoritative voice. Maybe pound the table occasionally. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/865 "2015-04-15T19:38:47Z")
Please proceed, Pubbies. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/866 "2015-04-15T19:45:11Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Please proceed, Pubbies. I’m glad they’re finally growing in, but I said “pound the table”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/867 "2015-04-15T19:50:55Z")
Thank you for proceeding. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/868 "2015-04-15T20:16:53Z")
I did note “RELEVANT” questions. If you need vocabulary lessons, don’t hesitate to attend some. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/869 "2015-04-15T20:25:25Z")
**doorhinge** has just said that, to him, “Benghazi” means Secretary Clinton’s\* entire tenure in office\*. That makes everything she’s said or done in this Administration “relevant” to a partisan fishing trip. Just like “Whitewater” meant a blowjob. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/870 "2015-04-15T20:27:27Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > The _excluded middle_ ? What an interesting term. What do you mean by that? Do I understand the part that you left out? [Here you go](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma). You offered me questions about whether Hillary should answer \*\*all \*\*the committee’s questions and whether I think they should leave her alone. Is there no third option? > [@](#): > > AFAIK, this Congressional Committee doesn’t have unlimited scope. But generally-speaking, I don’t believe Congressional investigations should have unlimited scope. But you seem fine with an indeterminate fishing expedition to look for answers for questions you can’t articulate. > [@](#): > > Hillary doesn’t have to answer the committee’s questions. And independent voters aren’t required to vote for someone who already acts as if she has the power of Executive Privilege. Thanks for proving my point by stating the assumption that if she doesn’t jump through every hoop from now to eternity it’s because she “already acts as if she has the power of Executive Privilege”. Never mind whether the demands are reasonable or proportionate or have anything to do with anything - any refusal or challenge will automatically be assumed to be arrogance at best and an admission of guilt at worst. Regardless of the truth of the matter, neither you nor the Congressional Republicans will ever accept any outcome that doesn’t reflect poorly upon her. And if the committee isn’t investigating in good faith, how long should she put up with this farce? ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/871 "2015-04-15T20:30:50Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > The _excluded middle_ ? What an interesting term. What do you mean by that? . . . “There are too many police shootings of black civilians.” “Oh, so you’re perfectly okay with black criminals shooting policemen!” Or: “Jesus must either be a liar, a lunatic, or The Lord. There are no other possibilities.” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/872 "2015-04-15T20:36:18Z")
Or indeed we either think Hillary should answer every question every investigation asks her ever or we’re having a “LEAVE BRITTANY ALONE” moment. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/873 "2015-04-15T22:59:00Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > You offered me questions about whether Hillary should answer \*\*all \*\*the committee’s questions and whether I think they should leave her alone. Is there no third option?But you seem fine with an indeterminate fishing expedition to look for answers for questions you can’t articulate. > > …Regardless of the truth of the matter, neither you nor the Congressional Republicans will ever accept any outcome that doesn’t reflect poorly upon her. And if the committee isn’t investigating in good faith, how long should she put up with this farce? (post shortened) You’re free to provide a third, fourth, fifth, etc. option. I would like to know if you believe Hillary should answer all of the questions put to her by the Congressional Committee. I would also like to know if you believe that the Congressional Committee should leave her alone. I’m also interested in any other opinions you may have. There was no intention of confusing you with an unintended _excluded middle_. Your assumption that I will not accept the outcome of the Congressional Committee is only your assumption. I have no problem accepting the outcome. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2015, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/874 "2015-04-15T23:38:48Z")
What ever happened to Executive Privilege? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/875 "2015-04-16T01:00:51Z")
This thread is now just bad comedy. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/876 "2015-04-16T01:42:06Z")
And we hope for even further improvement in the near future! ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/877 "2015-04-16T02:30:33Z")
No comment on her refusing to answer questions about her email usage in 2012? Yes, this thread is comedy. It’s hilarious to see furious spinning in her defense when people don’t even know if she’s worth defending. We saw it on Day 1. Heck, surrogates were complaining about it! “How can we defend her without talking points! Wahhh!” ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/878 "2015-04-16T03:45:23Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > . . . It’s hilarious to see furious spinning in her defense when people don’t even know if she’s worth defending. . . . No more than the absurdity of demanding to know what’s in her emails without any evidence that there is anything of any interest in those emails. You’re attacking her…without knowing she’s worth attacking. At very least, those of us defending her have a revered legal principle backing us up: innocent until proven guilty. Where’s your proof? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/879 "2015-04-16T03:50:57Z")
This isn’t a trial. It’s an election. Politicians need to prove they are honest. Clinton’s ratings on honesty are quite low, deservedly so. She’s got other things going for her, but trying to defend her honesty is like trying to defend Bill’s fidelity. It’s pointless and absurd. And it arguably has done the damage it’s going to do. She is who she is and some voters are comfortable with that, which is fine. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2015, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/880 "2015-04-16T03:58:35Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > No comment on her refusing to answer questions about her email usage in 2012? > > Yes, this thread is comedy. It’s hilarious to see furious spinning in her defense when people don’t even know if she’s worth defending. We saw it on Day 1. Heck, surrogates were complaining about it! “How can we defend her without talking points! Wahhh!” As I said above, Executive Privilege should be invoked. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092.md?page=43) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092.md?page=45)