# Hilary Clinton and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mail Account

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 3, 2015, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092 "2015-03-03T14:10:35Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/921 "2015-04-21T18:35:13Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Apparently the deaths were not all that tragic after all. :rolleyes:

They’re only tragic of they don’t derail Hilary’s chances to win the election. That would mean they died in vain.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/922 "2015-04-21T19:37:47Z")

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> [@Procrustus](#):
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> I think those questions have been answered. I also think you just don’t like the fact the answers aren’t that interesting.

You’re entitled to your opinion. Unfortunately for you, the Congressional Committees do not agree with your opinion. The Congressional investigation continues.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/923 "2015-04-21T19:42:57Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And the previous seven investigations into \*all \*those topics somehow missed something crucial, something that would have led to different conclusions, is that it? They didn’t seem to think they were missing any information they needed. Were they all just stupid?

Once again, were Ol’ Hillary’s Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Personal E-mails included in the previous Congressional investigations? Is the answer still _NO_? Then I guess the Congressional investigation will continue.

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**Author:** ![TommyzNR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@TommyzNR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TommyzNR)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/924 "2015-04-21T19:43:14Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Yes. I also believe she talked to her associates via telephone, and in person. She may even have passed them a note in class.

It’s telling that others have not answered this general question.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/925 "2015-04-21T19:44:33Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> The Congressional investigation continues.

And thank \*them \*for proceeding, too!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/926 "2015-04-21T19:46:54Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And thank \*them \*for proceeding, too!

Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/927 "2015-04-21T19:52:33Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Apparently the deaths were not all that tragic after all. :rolleyes:

If you say so. After all, what difference, at this point, does it make?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/928 "2015-04-21T19:54:42Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> If you say so. After all, what difference, at this point, does it make?

There’s that out-of-context, deliberately misinterpreted quote again. You people couldn’t be more transparent, really.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/929 "2015-04-21T19:54:48Z")

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_Context_. It can be your best friend or[your worst enemy](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/may/08/context-hillary-clintons-what-difference-does-it-m/). Learn it, understand it, use it.

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> Johnson: No, again, we were misled that there were supposedly protests and that something sprang out of that – an assault sprang out of that – and that was easily ascertained that that was not the fact, and the American people could have known that within days and they didn’t know that.
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> Clinton: With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime.
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> Johnson: OK. Thank you, Madame Secretary.

You’re welcome.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/930 "2015-04-21T20:00:39Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And thank \*them \*for proceeding, too!

> [@jayjay](#):
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> Never interrupt your enemy when he’s making a mistake.

Great! You both want the Congressional Committee to continue the investigation, and so do I. I love it when a plan comes together. All together now -  
Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah!  
Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah!  
Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah.  
O Lord, Kum ba yah

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/931 "2015-04-21T20:04:15Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> There’s that out-of-context, deliberately misinterpreted quote again. You people couldn’t be more transparent, really.

Quote? Did you see quotation marks, or did you just want to see quotation marks?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/932 "2015-04-21T20:04:49Z")

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No, not all that tragic, not at all. :rolleyes:

> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Quote? Did you see quotation marks, or did you just want to see quotation marks?

You’re claiming originality?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/933 "2015-04-21T20:06:47Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Great! You both want the Congressional Committee to continue the investigation, and so do I. I love it when a plan comes together. All together now -  
> Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah!  
> Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah!  
> Kum ba yah, my lord, Kum ba yah.  
> O Lord, Kum ba yah

Of course, you want it to continue because you’re uninformed about what has come before, and that there are no grounds for it to continue. Basically, you’ve believed the lies RW media has been feeding you.

The posters above want it to continue, because it’s obvious that it’s nothing more than an attempt to sling mud on the backs of dead Americans. It’s sickening, and it shows how utterly bereft of thought, dignity and morals the GOP is. Any lie will do, if it convinces some poor dupe to pull the lever in November.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/934 "2015-04-21T20:09:48Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> _Context_. It can be your best friend or[your worst enemy](http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/may/08/context-hillary-clintons-what-difference-does-it-m/). Learn it, understand it, use it.
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> You’re welcome.

Great. It’s once again shown that Ol’ Hillary made it clear that it is the government’s job to figure out what happened.

_It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but_…

And Ol’ Hillary also said she would do her best to answer the Congressional Committee’s questions.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/935 "2015-04-21T20:14:40Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Great. It’s once again shown that Ol’ Hillary made it clear that it is the government’s job to figure out what happened.

And they have. And if you don’t know that at this point, isn’t the fault of anyone else in this thread.

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> _It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but_…
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> And Ol’ Hillary also said she would do her best to answer the Congressional Committee’s questions.

And she did. And she complied with the laws.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/936 "2015-04-21T20:14:47Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Great. It’s once again shown that Ol’ Hillary made it clear that it is the government’s job to figure out what happened.

Whose else would it be? That comment makes no sense.

> [@](#):
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> And Ol’ Hillary also said she would do her best to answer the Congressional Committee’s questions.

Questions about Benghazi, yes. And the committee found nothing that she hadn’t answered to their satisfaction about the attacks or their context (yes, that word again). The fact that the answers didn’t include something crippling to her Presidential aspirations does not mean they were not just what she said they’d be. Or that another round of the same questions would accomplish that goal.

Please proceed with proceeding. And do please proceed with that inane “Ol’ Hillary” stuff; it does lend the proper _gravitas_ to a discussion of the tragedy of the four men’s deaths. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/937 "2015-04-21T20:32:34Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> And they have. And if you don’t know that at this point, isn’t the fault of anyone else in this thread.
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> And she did. And she complied with the laws.

Then Ol’ Hillary won’t have any reason not to answer all of the questions put to her by the Congressional Committee.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/938 "2015-04-21T20:34:19Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> Then Ol’ Hillary won’t have any reason not to answer all of the questions put to her by the Congressional Committee.

She did answer the questions. You’re saying she needs to give them emails that she legally deleted.

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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/939 "2015-04-21T20:49:35Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> She did answer the questions. You’re saying she needs to give them emails that she legally deleted.

I’m saying, again, that Ol’ Hillary needs to answer all of the questions put to her by the Congressional Committee.

You may disagree with what I’ve actually said. You may disagree with what you think I’ve said. You may disagree that Ol’ Hillary needs to answer all of the questions put to her by the Congressional Committee. You may not believe in government transparency. Life goes on, and so does the Congressional investigation.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hilary-clinton-and-the-terrible-horrible-no-good-very-bad-personal-e-mail-account/714092/940 "2015-04-21T20:53:02Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I’m saying, again, that Ol’ Hillary needs to answer all of the questions put to her by the Congressional Committee.
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> You may disagree with what I’ve actually said. You may disagree with what you think I’ve said. You may disagree that Ol’ Hillary needs to answer all of the questions put to her by the Congressional Committee. You may not believe in government transparency. Life goes on, and so does the Congressional investigation.

Question: Do you actually know there were previous Benghazi hearings where bi-partisan groups found nothing untoward, and in fact found that much of how RW media was reporting it was outright false?

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