# Hillary Clinton is responsible for the 'Obama is a Muslim' smear. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 12, 2018, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947 "2018-06-12T06:09:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/41 "2018-06-14T17:47:00Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > LBJ was a woman? Ha ha, no LBJ was only too happy to demonstrate to your full satisfaction that he was not. Of course the logic was that she (Hillary) benefitted would apply to LBJ. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/42 "2018-06-14T17:47:54Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > LBJ was a woman? “We are through the full-length looking glass, here, people.” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/43 "2018-06-14T17:49:52Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > LBJ was a woman? J. Edgar Hoover and Rudy Giuliani were in on it too? ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/44 "2018-06-14T17:58:05Z")
Here is the video of Clinton denying that Obama is a muslim:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ24FYpmv\_k](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQ24FYpmv_k) She’s definitely a politician there is something special about that “As far as I know”, it just gets me every time and makes me bust out laughing. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/45 "2018-06-14T18:00:57Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > If either one responds to the rumor in \*any \*way, just say that means it’s true. We have evidence right here that it works. And if they don’t respond in any way, say that means it’s true. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/46 "2018-06-14T18:03:04Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I suppose the “she must have done it because she benefitted” also means that LBJ had JFK killed. > [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > LBJ was a woman? Not Lyndon. He’s saying Lady Bird had Kennedy killed. She really wanted to be First Lady. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/47 "2018-06-14T18:13:39Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Not Lyndon. He’s saying Lady Bird had Kennedy killed. > > She really wanted to be First Lady. Thank goodness that was before First Ladies had naked pictures on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/48 "2018-06-14T20:56:09Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > I view it as similar to the 1988 “Willie Horton” issue. You hear a lot of righties say that Al Gore raised it first. Well, Gore did mention the existence of the prison furlough program and did point out that some of the furloughed prisoners did re-offend. What he did _not_ do is plaster pictures of Willie Horton’s scary, and not so incidentally black, face all over the place. Neither did Bush. The picture campaign was done by an independent PAC; this was investigated but not found to be directed by the Bush campaign. [cite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton) > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Bush (okay Atwater) also failed to mention that the furlough program (implemented by Republican Governor Frank Sargent) had been highly successful in reducing recidivism. The issue with Dukakis was not the existence of the furlough program. It was that Sargent and the legislature attempted to bar first degree murderers - such as Horton - from the program, but Dukakis blocked the attempt. [cite](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton#Criminal_activity_and_incarceration) ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/49 "2018-06-15T14:37:53Z")
The same cite goes on to say > [@](#): > > Horton was later interviewed in the periodical, The Nation: > > “The fact is, my name is not ‘Willie.’ It’s part of the myth of the case. The name irks me. It was created to play on racial stereotypes: big, ugly, dumb, violent, black—‘Willie.’ I resent that. They created a fictional character—who seemed believable, but who did not exist. They stripped me of my identity, distorted the facts, and robbed me of my constitutional rights.” ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/50 "2018-06-15T14:59:39Z")
When you genuinely can’t tell if a thread is real or parody. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/51 "2018-06-15T15:51:14Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > No one has come forward to state who actually started this smear campaign but the evidence is overwhelming that it originated in the Clinton campaign in 2007, and the counter-evidence is non-existent… > [@TriPolar](#): > > Your cite does nothing but provide evidence that Clinton was behind it and then comes to the erroneous conclusion that she wasn’t. > [@](#): > > … it is Hillary who is the liar here … I’m trying to figure out what your claim is. Can you clarify with small words? (Yes, you’ve already used small words but their literal meaning is so wrong, so absurd, that there must be a metaphor or extrapolation involved.) Some people created a bigoted email. Does it really matter whether they were all Joe Six-pack the racist plumber, or some were Jim Five-pack, the volunteer envelope-stuffer? Higher-ups in the Clinton campaign, including Hillary herself, consistently deprecated the racist claim. Might Hillary have been more forceful in her denouncing? Probably. How does that make her a “liar”? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Hari\_Seldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hari_seldon/32/5173_2.png) [@Hari\_Seldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hari_Seldon)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/52 "2018-06-20T01:37:10Z")
I have no idea who started the rumor, but I will say this: that I fell off the Hillary bandwagon in 2008 over the last five words: “Obama is not a Muslim, as far as I know.” ---
**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947/53 "2018-06-21T22:00:48Z")
I call BS. That’s all the OP deserves. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-is-responsible-for-the-obama-is-a-muslim-smear/815947.md?page=2)