# Hillary Clinton VP choice **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 25, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511 "2015-11-25T04:45:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/1 "2015-11-25T04:45:00Z")
Hillary Rodham Clinton is the likely Democratic presidential nominee for 2016. If she wins the nomination, who does she pick as her vice presidential running mate? Julian Castro, the rising star and HUD secretary? Tim Kaine, the Virginia senator? Evan Bayh, former Indiana senator and centrist? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/2 "2015-11-25T04:48:50Z")
Cory Booker. ---
**Author:** ![GloryDays](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GloryDays](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GloryDays)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/3 "2015-11-25T04:52:17Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Cory Booker. I’m from NJ and I think Booker should run for president in 2020 or 2024. What about Evan Bayh, former Indiana senator and governor. He’s a moderate Democrat like Bill Clinton was in 1992. ---
**Author:** ![DerekMichaels00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerekMichaels00](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerekMichaels00)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/4 "2015-11-25T06:17:02Z")
maybe Mark Warner or Carte Goodwin, former West Virginia Senator and Commissioner of United States-China Economic and Security Review Commission. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/5 "2015-11-25T06:51:42Z")
Mark Warner or Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/6 "2015-11-25T06:57:31Z")
Brown not only helps cement Ohio (and there are few paths for the GOP that do not include flipping Ohio) but also can help with an outreach to rural America (major player in the [Farm Bill](http://www.brown.senate.gov/newsroom/press/release/brown-announces-senate-passage-of-five-year-comprehensive-farm-bill-that-saves-taxpayers-23-billion-while-creating-jobs-boosting-rural-development-investing-in-biobased-manufacturing).) ---
**Author:** ![Futurist110](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@Futurist110](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futurist110)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/7 "2015-11-25T08:20:36Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > Hillary Rodham Clinton is the likely Democratic presidential nominee for 2016. If she wins the nomination, who does she pick as her vice presidential running mate? Julian Castro, the rising star and HUD secretary? Tim Kaine, the Virginia senator? Evan Bayh, former Indiana senator and centrist? U.S. Senator Martin Heinrich might be a good VP pick for Hillary Clinton :): > **[Martin Heinrich](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heinrich)** > > Martin Trevor Heinrich (/ˈhaɪnrɪk/ HYNE-rik; born October 17, 1971) is an American businessman and politician serving as the senior United States senator from New Mexico, a seat he has held since 2013. A member of the Democratic Party, Heinrich served as the U.S. representative from New Mexico's 1st congressional district from 2009 to 2013. He is the dean of New Mexico's congressional delegation. > Born in Fallon, Nevada, Heinrich lived much of his adulthood in Albuquerque, New Mexico, and main... After all, Martin Heinrich is both young and Western. Indeed, this could help balance the 2016 Democratic ticket considering that Hillary Clinton is both old and Eastern (and a woman, to boot!). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Futurist110](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@Futurist110](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futurist110)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/8 "2015-11-25T08:22:10Z")
> [@DerekMichaels00](#): > > maybe Mark Warner or Carte Goodwin, former West Virginia Senator and Commissioner of United States-China Economic and Security Review Commission. Goodwin is probably too inexperienced while Warner would be a qualified but boring VP pick. ---
**Author:** ![Futurist110](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@Futurist110](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futurist110)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 8:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/9 "2015-11-25T08:23:10Z")
> [@GloryDays](#): > > What about Evan Bayh, former Indiana senator and governor. He’s a moderate Democrat like Bill Clinton was in 1992. Moderate Democrats might be going out of fashion nowadays, though. ---
**Author:** ![Futurist110](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a88e4f/32.png) [@Futurist110](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futurist110)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/10 "2015-11-25T08:24:11Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Cory Booker. Hillary doesn’t need Booker to energize the Black vote, though. After all, having Obama campaign for her can already do that for her. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/11 "2015-11-25T09:30:34Z")
Yeah, but getting Booker in as VP now might be useful experience for him now. I don’t see him running 2020, but maybe 24. I like him, of course, and think he’d be a fine choice. I still think Bernie would be a good choice. Hilary’s biggest problem is capturing the enthusiast youth vote. Another moderate doesn’t really add as much to what she’s already brings. The Clintons define centrist politics. ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/12 "2015-11-25T16:04:56Z")
I could see myself voting for Hillary over some from the current crop of GOP candidates, but those odds go down if Sherrod Brown is on her ticket. He may be too far left for her. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/13 "2015-11-25T16:32:47Z")
I don’t think Sanders would take the job even if offered - and I think his age keeps Clinton from wanting him on the ticket. Mark Warner and Sherrod Brown are good for nailing down a big EV swing state, assuming the VP actually has that effect (not sure that it does). Senator Booker is an interesting choice for firing up the base, which I think Clinton has trouble doing because she’s such a centrist. Julian Castro would be a nice choice for both firing up the base, firing up the latino vote, and trying to put the southwest into play, but I think the name and the fact that Texas going blue in the next decade is a pipe dream keeps him off the ticket. Could be interesting. Disappointingly, I think looks still matter all too much in politics, and I think that’s between Booker and Warner. Joke answer: Maybe Charlie Crist will help out with Florida 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/14 "2015-11-25T16:41:09Z")
I don’t think that it particularly matters if the VP is from a swing state, as the record doesn’t actually seem to show that that helps. It might help to have a VP with a strong reputation on some particular issue. Most importantly, though, in this case, is that the VP slot will be a good stepping stone for some up-and-coming young Democrat. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/15 "2015-11-25T16:53:02Z")
Best choice- Joe Biden Would like to see Sherrod Brown or Al Franken Booker would be a great choice. Afraid we’ll get O’Malley. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/16 "2015-11-25T16:57:46Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Best choice- Joe Biden > > Would like to see Sherrod Brown or Al Franken > > Booker would be a great choice. > > Afraid we’ll get O’Malley. How is Biden a good choice? Too old to offset Clinton’s age, doesn’t bring any states with him, he’s a gaffe-factory… what does he add to the ticket? While I like Franken, I don’t think he adds much to the ticket either. Why do you like him? ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/17 "2015-11-25T16:59:30Z")
Speakers from the previous DNC have done surprisingly well (examples: Bill Clinton in 1988, despite the fact that everybody made fun of his rather long speech (the delegates cheered when he said, “In conclusion”); Barack Obama as the keynote speaker in 2004); the 2012 keynote speaker was Julian Castro. Pardon me for playing the “gender card,” but I think the first thing on the VP list needs to be, “Not a woman - otherwise it runs the risk of people on the fence concerning ‘do we really want a woman as President?’ voting Republican.” If I didn’t consider this a problem, one of the top names on my list would be Dianne Feinstein, who was seriously considered in 1984. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/18 "2015-11-25T17:10:03Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > Speakers from the previous DNC have done surprisingly well (examples: Bill Clinton in 1988, despite the fact that everybody made fun of his rather long speech (the delegates cheered when he said, “In conclusion”); Barack Obama as the keynote speaker in 2004); the 2012 keynote speaker was Julian Castro. > > Pardon me for playing the “gender card,” but I think the first thing on the VP list needs to be, “Not a woman - otherwise it runs the risk of people on the fence concerning ‘do we really want a woman as President?’ voting Republican.” If I didn’t consider this a problem, one of the top names on my list would be Dianne Feinstein, who was seriously considered in 1984. Oh come on, anyone worried about a woman as president is not going to change their mind because the VP is a male. Those votes are completely lost the second we nominate Hillary. They are also more than canceled out by the women voting for Hillary solely to get a woman president though. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/19 "2015-11-25T17:18:05Z")
I think Warner may be in the driver’s seat (though Tim Kaine could work as the poor man’s Warner). Swing state, popular Senator, former Governor. Not considered too far to the left (Brown is one of the most liberal Senators in Washington, which could hurt Clinton as she tries to get votes from moderates in the general). ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511/20 "2015-11-25T17:24:56Z")
> [@yellowjacketcoder](#): > > How is Biden a good choice? Too old to offset Clinton’s age, doesn’t bring any states with him, he’s a gaffe-factory… what does he add to the ticket? > > While I like Franken, I don’t think he adds much to the ticket either. Why do you like him? Biden is universally loved and brings liberal gravitas to the ticket. Franken is a quick mind and would kick the ass of whatever chump he’d have to debate. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-vp-choice/738511.md?page=2)