# Hillary Clinton, why do you hate America? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 6, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289 "2008-03-06T04:28:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/1 "2008-03-06T04:28:04Z")
So it comes down to this: The People of a Democratic persuasion have picked their champion, but this ego-greedy old crone is still grasping and preening and picking at the carcass of the United States! It is like the bird that picks the goodies from the mouth of the alligator, but the lizard is dead, dear lady, DEAD! You want “information” about non-existent Rezko _dealings_? Are you prepared to go over Whitewater again, m’Lady? Mmm hmm? You’re safer at 3 in the morning because Hillary rolls over and there is Bill who’s gotten off who knows how with who knows whom recently, not as commander in chief but as lecher in chief, mmm hmm? Is that safety, m’Lady? You don’t need a red phone, you need a phone with porn numbers or something, call up the hookers 24/7 for old Bill, y’know? Meanwhile, Barack and Michele are the spitting image of Chastity to return virtue to our youth, who are dissipated. The choice is obvious. And every time I see Hillary’s fuckin’ mug on the screen I want to scream my lungs out in frustration and terror. Those perky cheeks moving beneath those Orbs of Dishonesty! Who the fuck do you think you’re fooling, you wretched old hag, discarded by Bill long ago as an object of sexual fulfillment, rejected by the nation already Under One God, Indivisible?! She cannot be the first woman president if she’s not a woman, right? Like no fuckin’ duh, people! I don’t mean to get too sexual about it or objectify her, but Am I Hot Or Not? Vote “NOT” or it’s scary times in the sack–can you even imagine that shit? The No. 1 thing is that we need to defeat McCain. Fuck, he looks more like a woman, albeit an old lady, than fucking Hillary! He’s got those uncertain jowls, the demasculinized mantits and all that shit. Can this fucking moron even read off a teleprompter without his eyes bugging out like he’s a frog being squeezed by an autistic teen? It boggles the fuckin’ mind, people! This is the loser, the Bush Fuckin’-Redux, who requires full crushage in November, and we’ve got to get on the ball–wouldn’t you say that’s a fair statement? This is the dude who listens to K-Tel records and makes the songs about bombing foreign nations. This fucker is a nut with a Cialis hardon for warfare! We gotta defeat that shit, people! So Hillary managing her cameltoe in her poly pantsuits, you know, Vagisil and all that shit, ain’t gonna cut the mustard, people! We’ve got our candidate–Obama–and he is poised to kick that elderly shit clear back to Nam or Panama or wherethefuckever, got it?! YES, we fucking can, but we gotta clear the decks of Lady McBeth and get this nation on a path, y’know? So Hillary, give it the fuck up! Get the fuck off the stage, your day and Bill’s is OVER OVER I’ll be fucked if it’s not OVER! ---
**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/2 "2008-03-06T04:35:17Z")
[QUOTE=Aeschines] So it comes down to this: The People of a Democratic persuasion have picked their champion, but this ego-greedy old crone is still grasping and preening and picking at the carcass of the United States! It is like the bird that picks the goodies from the mouth of the alligator, but the lizard is dead, dear lady, DEAD! [/QUOTE] Uh… are you following the news at all? Then you’ll know that this isn’t over, no “champion” has been chosen. You can sway this as far as you’d like, either way – in favor of Obama or Clinton, but you can’t avoid the fact that this isn’t over yet. No matter how much you want it to be. It just isn’t. > [@](#): > > So Hillary, give it the fuck up! Get the fuck off the stage, your day and Bill’s is OVER OVER I’ll be fucked if it’s not OVER! Not a chance. Her day isn’t over anymore than Obama’s is. ---
**Author:** ![neutron\_star](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/51bf81/32.png) [@neutron\_star](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neutron_star)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/3 "2008-03-06T04:53:53Z")
Damn. Remind me not to cut in front of you in line at the bar, OP. You’re not a very happy drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/4 "2008-03-06T04:56:39Z")
I’m not pissed, just pissed at Hillary. And YES, the champion is chosen, because there is no way that Hillary can catch up to Obama in delegates. Her campaign is the walking DEAD, zombietown! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/5 "2008-03-06T04:59:57Z")
[QUOTE=Aeschines] So it comes down to this: The People of a Democratic persuasion have picked their champion, but this ego-greedy old crone is still grasping and preening and picking at the carcass of the United States! It is like the bird that picks the goodies from the mouth of the alligator, but the lizard is dead, dear lady, DEAD! [/QUOTE] This shouldn’t be making me drool, should it? ---
**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/6 "2008-03-06T05:00:29Z")
[QUOTE=Aeschines] I’m not pissed, just pissed at Hillary. And YES, the champion is chosen, because there is no way that Hillary can catch up to Obama in delegates. Her campaign is the walking DEAD, zombietown! [/QUOTE] If that were true, she’d have little reason to stay in the race at this point. Likewise, her supporters would have little reason to continue doing so. In a similar vein, nor is there really a way that Obama can pull off the 2,025 needed to secure the nomination. This is going to the convention, believe me. And when it does, the superdelegates are going to take a long, hard look at not only the number of votes carried, but where they were carried, and who voted. OH, TX (and potentially FL, and probably PA) will be big players in terms of bagging delegates for Hillary. When that happens, you can say that the fight is over. Until then, it’s what it always has been – politics as usual. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/7 "2008-03-06T05:15:02Z")
[QUOTE=Aeschines] And YES, the champion is chosen… [/QUOTE] We live in a democracy, not fucking Camelot. We don’t nominate people by acclamation here. If Obama happens to win the most votes at this summer’s national convention, he _still_ won’t be a ‘champion’, he’ll be a nominee. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/8 "2008-03-06T05:35:21Z")
Listen, strange women lyin’ in ponds distributin’ swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. If I went ‘round sayin’ I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away . . . ---
**Author:** ![The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8797f3/32.png) [@The\_Universe\_Lashes\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Universe_Lashes_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/9 "2008-03-06T05:40:16Z")
Obama almost certainly will be the choice of the public, in terms of delegates won. Hillary’s only shot is through devious schemes like convincing the superdelegates she’s more electable, or changing the rules on the Florida and Michigan delegates . ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/10 "2008-03-06T05:50:52Z")
[QUOTE=Cisco] Listen, strange women lyin’ in ponds distributin’ swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony. If I went ‘round sayin’ I was Emperor, just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they’d put me away . . . [/QUOTE] Voter: Who goes there? Queen Hillary: It is I, Hillary, Wife of William Clinton, from the House of White. Queen of the female Americans, defeater of the Obamas, nominee of all Democrats. Voter: Pull the other one. ---
**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/11 "2008-03-06T06:12:05Z")
Wow, what’s it like to be such a misogynistic asshole? Does it hurt your personal relationships, or are you able to find women/men that put up with it? I feel sorry for you, I guess. You have all this pent up rage that has nothing to do with Hillary and everything to do with women. Have you had a tough life in that regard? ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/12 "2008-03-06T06:56:25Z")
[QUOTE=HowieReynolds] Hillary’s only shot is through devious schemes like convincing the superdelegates she’s more electable, or changing the rules on the Florida and Michigan delegates . [/QUOTE] Why would that be a devious scheme? You don’t have to like it, but that was EXACTLY why the superdelegates were put in place. Seating Fl and Mi wouldn’t be devious either, because it would have to happen at the will of the convention. Hillary can’t just say “Delegates come forth!” and have them be seated. Finally, to the OP, who I imagine was ranting with similar furor in 2000 about Bush “stealing” the election when Gore won the popular vote…Clinton has a slim edge (something like 40,000 IIRC) in total votes over Obama. Your theme for the OP was “The People of a Democratic persuasion have picked their champion”. Would you care to rethink that position, or stick with it and rant about, hmm, what would be equivalent…maybe “a smooth talking inexperienced upstart from Illinois attempting to use the mechanics of the electoral system to subvert the clear will of the majority of Democrats”? ---
**Author:** ![Jolly\_Roger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jolly\_Roger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jolly_Roger)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/13 "2008-03-06T07:13:30Z")
[QUOTE=glee] Voter: Who goes there? Queen Hillary: It is I, Hillary, Wife of William Clinton, from the House of White. Queen of the female Americans, defeater of the Obamas, nominee of all Democrats. Voter: Pull the other one. [/QUOTE] Perhaps she’ll use the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch? ---
**Author:** ![D-bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@D-bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D-bear)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/14 "2008-03-06T10:44:12Z")
[QUOTE=Aeschines] The People of a Democratic persuasion have picked their champion [/QUOTE] I’m of the Democratic Persuasion, and I pick Hillary. Why don’t you just blindly follow her majesty Oprah and read what ever book she tells you to read and leave it at that? Leave the will of the people to the people and shut the hell up. It’ll all be decided by the process and not by Oprahphites like you. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 11:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/15 "2008-03-06T11:13:43Z")
[QUOTE=Aeschines] She cannot be the first woman president if she’s not a woman, right? Like no fuckin’ duh, people! I don’t mean to get too sexual about it or objectify her, but Am I Hot Or Not? Vote “NOT” or it’s scary times in the sack–can you even imagine that shit? [/QUOTE] Do you have any idea how puerile and stupid this makes you sound? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/16 "2008-03-06T11:33:13Z")
**Aeschines** , quit making Obama supporters look bad. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/17 "2008-03-06T12:00:40Z")
**Aeschines** , you are an embarassment to your preferred candidate, to your political party, and to your country. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/18 "2008-03-06T12:23:03Z")
In my country, the people don’t get to choose who the leader of their party is. The MPs (Members of Parliament) get to do that themselves. It’s a better, faster, stress-free, and, more importantly, a considerably cheaper, method. I recommend it. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/19 "2008-03-06T13:28:57Z")
In Russia, party finds YOU! ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2008, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289/20 "2008-03-06T14:13:14Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] This shouldn’t be making me drool, should it? [/QUOTE] Just don’t tell me Hillary’s bod is making you drool; that would be really gross. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clinton-why-do-you-hate-america/440289.md?page=2)