# Hillary Clinton's Presidential Campaign Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873 "2016-05-04T11:09:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2016, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/241 "2016-06-27T18:09:48Z")
New poll has HRC up in AZ by four points… > **[Watch out Donald Trump, Arizona Might Just be Going for Hillary Clinton](http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/watch-out-donald-trump-arizona-might-just-be-going-for-hillary-clinton-8396061)** > > Given the amount of love and attention Donald Trump has heaped on Arizona in the past year, you'd think he'd have the state in the bag come November. Turns out, that just might not be the case. A new poll released this week by OH Strategic... ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/242 "2016-06-28T14:05:51Z")
The latest in the “Final Benghazi reports” has been filed. Expect more in the future. > **[Final Benghazi report details administration failures](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/benghazi-report-obama-clinton-224854)** > > The findings offer new details, but are unlikely to change the political dynamic around the attacks. Again, I should note… no sanctions. No indictments. No recommendations for sanctions or indictments. No talk of sanctions or indictments. An investigation into Benghazi was necessary. Neither Hillary nor Obama nor Leon Panetta shined in this moment, four people were killed, and the administration was caught flat-footed and confused. But… to spend more time investigating this than 9/11? JFK? Watergate? And to produce, what, an 800 page book that will have two types of readers: Those who are paid to read the report, and those who are obsessed with this issue? Well, as far as the election is concerned, yet _another_ “YEAH, THIS IS IT, WE’LL GET HER THIS TIME” moments have passed for the Repubs with absolutely nothing to show for it, again. Congratulations, guys. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/243 "2016-06-28T16:14:30Z")
Hillary seems to have found her stride. Her rallies with Warren have been special, so much so that I now make her the favorite in the veepstakes. The long awaited Benghazi report will not convert a single person to vote against her, those who think it proves her unworthy have been singing “Hillary Lied, People Died, BENGHAZI!” for years. The percentage of Sanders supporters unwilling to vote for her are going down markedly, and if Warren is picked they will essentially be eliminated. She’s going to have the Murderer’s Row of surrogates: Warren, Sanders, Obama, Bill Clinton. As Trump continues his self-destruction, we’re heading for a blowout wave Godzilla zombie apocalypse election. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/244 "2016-06-28T17:42:00Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > The latest in the “Final Benghazi reports” has been filed. Expect more in the future. > > [http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/benghazi-report-obama-clinton-224854](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/benghazi-report-obama-clinton-224854) > > Again, I should note… no sanctions. No indictments. No recommendations for sanctions or indictments. No talk of sanctions or indictments. > > An investigation into Benghazi was necessary. Neither Hillary nor Obama nor Leon Panetta shined in this moment, four people were killed, and the administration was caught flat-footed and confused. > > But… to spend more time investigating this than 9/11? JFK? Watergate? And to produce, what, an 800 page book that will have two types of readers: Those who are paid to read the report, and those who are obsessed with this issue? > > Well, as far as the election is concerned, yet _another_ “YEAH, THIS IS IT, WE’LL GET HER THIS TIME” moments have passed for the Repubs with absolutely nothing to show for it, again. Congratulations, guys. Yet another $7M GOP campaign ad, and nothing more. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/245 "2016-06-28T18:31:51Z")
> [@Johnny\_Ace](#): > > Yet another $7M GOP campaign ad, and nothing more. Yep. I suppose it would be untoward to point out that the seven million dollars could have been spent, instead, on security upgrades at US embassies and consulates, worldwide…? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/246 "2016-06-28T18:45:15Z")
When will the next Benghazi committee be holding its first hearings? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/247 "2016-06-28T18:45:23Z")
[QUOTE=Sherrerd] I suppose it would be untoward to point out that the seven million dollars could have been spent, instead, on security upgrades at US embassies and consulates, worldwide…? [/QUOTE] Only if you’re a Republican. 😃 Besides, they had plenty of free time, what with all that not voting they had to do. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2016, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/248 "2016-06-28T19:53:48Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > When will the next Benghazi committee be holding its first hearings? I believe it’s to be a joint _ **“Rolling Stones Farewell Tour/Final Benghazi Investigative Panel”** _ affair, to be rolled out in early October. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/249 "2016-06-29T17:09:02Z")
[http://www.politico.com/blogs/swing-states-2016-election/2016/06/clinton-trump-swing-state-poll-224923](http://www.politico.com/blogs/swing-states-2016-election/2016/06/clinton-trump-swing-state-poll-224923) > [@](#): > > Hillary Clinton is polling higher than Donald Trump in seven swing states, holding leads ranging from four to 17 percentage points, according to a new poll released Wednesday. > > Of the seven states polled by Ballotpedia, Clinton’s lead was smallest in Iowa, where registered voters who responded to the poll preferred her by just four points. The former secretary of state’s largest lead came in Michigan, a traditionally Democratic-leaning state where Trump has said he could compete in November. Clinton leads the Manhattan billionaire there by 17 points, 50 percent to 33 percent. > > Clinton also holds double-digit leads in Florida (14 points), Pennsylvania (14 points) and North Carolina (10 points) over Trump. Respondents preferred her to Trump by nine points in Ohio and seven points in Virginia. > > Clinton maintained her advantage when respondents were offered a third option, Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson, although her leads shifted slightly. In a three-way race, Clinton’s lead among those polled dropped to just three points in Iowa and six points in North Carolina. But Johnson’s introduction as an option actually grew the former secretary of state’s lead to 15 points and eight points in Pennsylvania and Virginia, respectively. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/250 "2016-06-29T19:01:46Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > …As Trump continues his self-destruction, we’re heading for a blowout wave Godzilla zombie apocalypse election. I love this phrase, and hope you’re right. As it happens, Nate Silver says Hillary is now 79% likely to win in November: [News, Politics, Sports, Mail & Latest Headlines - AOL.com](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/29/nate-silver-hillary-clinton-has-a-near-80-percent-chance-of-win/21421192/) ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/251 "2016-06-29T19:32:22Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > [http://www.politico.com/blogs/swing-states-2016-election/2016/06/clinton-trump-swing-state-poll-224923](http://www.politico.com/blogs/swing-states-2016-election/2016/06/clinton-trump-swing-state-poll-224923) Note though that that Ballotpedia poll (performed by ?Evolving Strategies?) is the outlier. You also have Quinnipiac just calling Ohio tied (compared to their Clinton +9) for example. Overall the aggregate has Trump closer in the swing states than in the national numbers. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_stamos_left_ear/32/3198_2.png) [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Stamos_Left_Ear)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/252 "2016-06-30T02:31:42Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Note though that that Ballotpedia poll (performed by ?Evolving Strategies?) is the outlier. You also have Quinnipiac just calling Ohio tied (compared to their Clinton +9) for example.. [Quinnipiac University’s last poll](http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ohio/) has Clinton up by 2 points. Since April she has been ahead in all polls but one - an older Quinnipiac poll. Nate Silver gives her a 70% chance to win the state as of now. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/253 "2016-06-30T02:49:24Z")
> [@John\_Stamos\_Left\_Ear](#): > > [Quinnipiac University’s last poll](http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/ohio/) has Clinton up by 2 points. Since April she has been ahead in all polls but one - an older Quinnipiac poll. Huh? Not sure what is going on at 538 but here’s [the actual Quinnipiac poll](https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/ps/ps06212016_Sfw34kbm.pdf). > [@Quinnipac June 21](#): > > Ohio – Clinton and Trump tied 40 – 40 percent, compared to a small 43 – 39 percent Trump lead May 10. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/254 "2016-06-30T14:08:19Z")
Sorry, but I kind of think of this as good news: [Kaine accepted $160k in gifts over the years](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/tim-kaine-virginia-veep-mcdonnell-clinton-224888). Kaine is boring. Safe, but boring. Anything that makes him less likely is a good thing in my book. This, of course, is bad: [Dems groan after Bill Clinton shares flight with Loretta Lynch](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bill-clinton-loretta-lynch-224972). WTF, Bill? Couldn’t take another plane? On the other hand, Hillary is taking the fight to the new potentially open swing states, [such as North Carolina](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-north-carolina-wisconsin-224960). Feeling secure in Blue states, Hillary is taking the fight to states that went R in 2012 but are looking increasingly likely for D’s this time around. Trump, by the way, is in Maine. Lastly, Clinton is showing herself on the popular side of the gun control debate as [support for gun control measures grow](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/gun-control-measures-pollinggun-control-measures-polling-224953). 3 days since the abortion ruling and Trump has yet to issue a statement. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/255 "2016-06-30T14:50:54Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Huh? > > Not sure what is going on at 538 but here’s [the actual Quinnipiac poll](https://www.qu.edu/images/polling/ps/ps06212016_Sfw34kbm.pdf). Ah. Scrolled into the meat more. The two-way is tied and the four-way is Clinton +2 (Clinton 38, Trump 36, Johnson 8, Don’t know/wouldn’t answer 7, wouldn’t vote 6, Stein 3, other 2). Apples to apples, the Ballotpedia poll is a set of two-ways. The RCP rolling average is less than the national lead at Clinton +3 in a two-way (and +2 in the four-way); a result of +9 is an outlier. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/256 "2016-06-30T16:50:45Z")
Four key states where POTUS can help Hillary: [4 states where Barack Obama can boost Hillary Clinton's campaign](http://www.aol.com/article/2016/06/30/4-states-where-barack-obama-can-boost-hillary-clintons-campaign/21421991/) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/257 "2016-07-01T17:56:17Z")
[Hillary’s haul in June? Almost $70 million.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-june-fundraising-haul-225033#ixzz4DBCMpnjG) $40 mil went to her campaign, $28 mil went downstream. If Trump releases their numbers, expect it to be after the news cycle winds down for the weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/258 "2016-07-01T19:16:40Z")
I’m most interested to see just how much the Trump campaign made in those two days of fundraising. They touted $11M over a two-day period for one day’s news cycle, then you miraculously never heard that claim again. [Trump campaign fundraises off media ‘spin’](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/trump-fundraising-media-224840) Now there’s the $3.3M single email thing, something that experts doubt is even possible given Trump’s fundraising handicaps: [Experts: Donald Trump Is Lying About His Fundraising Haul](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/27/experts-donald-trump-is-lying-about-his-fundraising-haul.html) Here’s my favorite creative math: > [@](#): > > “We just started our online campaign. Online mailing [Tuesday] did over $3 million. Donald, in an unprecedented move, agreed to match the first $2 million personally that came in. So we did over $5 million online yesterday, and we’re just starting the effort,” national finance chairman Steve Mnuchin said in an interview with the Fox Business Network. Sounds more like $3M online to me, but that’s just me. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2016, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/259 "2016-07-01T21:10:46Z")
I asked the FEC and they said there were no laws against verbal “mendacity” in campaign regulations, even dealing with financial issues. Lying on a filing is another matter, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/260 "2016-07-03T03:40:11Z")
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