# Hillary Clinton's Presidential Campaign Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873 "2016-05-04T11:09:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/261 "2016-07-03T03:42:03Z")
Yes, and? ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/262 "2016-07-03T03:53:07Z")
Heh. > [@](#): > > “It is impossible for the FBI not to recommend criminal charges against Hillary Clinton. What she did was wrong! What Bill did was stupid!” Trump tweeted, referring to the former president’s meeting with Lynch. > > After reports surfaced that Clinton was unlikely to be charged, Trump then tweeted, “It was just announced-by sources-that no charges will be brought against Crooked Hillary Clinton. Like I said, the system is totally rigged!” :rolleyes: Whathever, you sore loser. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/263 "2016-07-03T12:15:24Z")
I don’t know how they know but they say they do, and [no charges for Hillary.](http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141507211) ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/264 "2016-07-03T13:51:28Z")
Unsourced … I mean it is low risk to be wrong but unsourced reveals are not worth much. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2016, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/265 "2016-07-03T16:08:41Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Unsourced … I mean it is low risk to be wrong but unsourced reveals are not worth much. Of course then the followup is that interestingly Clinton refused to follow what the sourses were telling the reporters and Trump and his staff accepted it. Regardless if it will turn to be accurate, it shows once again a knee jerker vulgarian that will swallow a lot of unsourced information if he becomes president. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/266 "2016-07-07T02:37:56Z")
> **[Sanders confirms endorsement chatter](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/sanders-endorsement-chatter-225198)** > > 'There is going to be a coming together' of the two campaigns, Sanders said. Sander’s confirms endorsement chatter. Looks like our long national nightmare will be over soon. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/267 "2016-07-07T02:46:50Z")
And it looks like as there are no indictments just about the one last “but” from Sanders is non operative. And the latest from Reuters/Ipsos poll: [http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0ZL2S6](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN0ZL2S6) > [@](#): > > Clinton expands lead over Trump to 13 points: Reuters/Ipsos poll That will translate to about 5 or 6 points ahead of Trump in the agregate, the good news is that it seems that Trump is not getting traction among the whole electorate by returning to his old ways. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/268 "2016-07-07T23:12:44Z")
> **[With nearly every demographic, Hillary Clinton is outperforming Barack Obama...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/07/with-nearly-every-demographic-hillary-clinton-is-outperforming-barack-obama-in-2012/)** > > Women -- particularly white women -- have moved strongly to the left. With nearly every demographic, Clinton is outperforming Barack Obama in 2012. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/269 "2016-07-08T01:06:56Z")
[http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-trump-pew-poll-225255](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-trump-pew-poll-225255) > [@](#): > > 07/07/16 Clinton tops Trump by 9 points in new Pew poll > [@](#): > > Clinton leads Trump in a head-to-head matchup, 51 percent to 42 percent, with 7 percent undecided, according to the [Pew] poll. > > In a three-way race among Clinton, Trump and Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson, Clinton maintains her margin of victory over Trump, topping both candidates with 45 percent support. Trump follows at 36 support, with Johnson at 11 percent and 8 percent remaining undecided. > > Trump holds a nine-point advantage over Clinton among white voters, 51 percent to 42 percent, but Clinton dominates among African-American (91 percent to 7 percent) and Hispanic (66 percent to 24 percent) voters. Again, in the poll agregators, Clinton is ahead by about 5. So curb your entusuasm. I have noted that several polls are pointing that the third party candidate affects both Clinton and Trump, but in later polls like this one the third party candidate actually hurts Trump more. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/270 "2016-07-08T02:57:21Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > …With nearly every demographic, Clinton is outperforming Barack Obama in 2012. Wow! I’m impressed. Hope she can keep it up. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/271 "2016-07-08T14:10:19Z")
She’s not facing JOhn McCain or MItt Romney. She’s facing Donald Trump. Obama wishes he had been so lucky, would have saved his staff a lot of sleepless nights. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/272 "2016-07-08T14:36:56Z")
I must say, I’m happy with the job she is doing so far. Attacking his business record in front of one of his biggest failures was a good move. As Rove said, attack your enemy’s strengths. If he wants to run on his business record, tear it down. I want her to get under his skin at every opportunity and take up residence inside his head. Needle him, ridicule him, make him devote every speech to half-assed defenses of himself. What she should do is the morning of the debate, just knock the shit out of him about one of his tweets. (why the hell do candidates tweet, anyway? Does any good ever come of it?) He’ll be so pissed that he’ll blow up at every question during the debate and look like Ralph Kramden on steroids. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/273 "2016-07-08T14:38:43Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > She’s not facing JOhn McCain or MItt Romney. She’s facing Donald Trump. Obama wishes he had been so lucky, would have saved his staff a lot of sleepless nights. Hillary would have easily beaten McCain in '08 – maybe not w/ NC and VA, but maybe w/ MO, WV, AR, and a few other states. Don’t know about '12. And Obama would have been her Veep. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/274 "2016-07-08T14:48:46Z")
She probably would have beaten McCain, sure, since McCain beat himself at the end there. Obama would not have been her VP though, for the same reason Clinton wasn’t Obama’s VP. Obama would certainly be the frontrunner today had that been how things shook out, but he’d be frontrunner from the Senate. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/275 "2016-07-08T14:51:33Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > She probably would have beaten McCain, sure, since McCain beat himself at the end there. Obama would not have been her VP though, for the same reason Clinton wasn’t Obama’s VP. Obama would certainly be the frontrunner today had that been how things shook out, but he’d be frontrunner from the Senate. Obama would have very obviously been her Veep – if she had won, she would have understood that black Democrats would have been very, very frustrated. And Obama would have been a near-perfect Veep candidate – very different from her tonally, young, charismatic and excellent on the stump, etc. She would have picked him in a heartbeat – very different than the reverse situation. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/276 "2016-07-08T15:00:48Z")
Maybe. We’ll probably settle this when she makes her current VP selection. If as I theorize she’ll go with a longtime loyalist, like Tom Vilsack, then I’m probably right. If she goes bold, then you’re probably right. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/277 "2016-07-08T15:03:11Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Maybe. We’ll probably settle this when she makes her current VP selection. If as I theorize she’ll go with a longtime loyalist, like Tom Vilsack, then I’m probably right. If she goes bold, then you’re probably right. I don’t think this will tell us much; '16 is a lot different than '08, and Castro (or other young “unknowns”) is a lot different from Obama. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/278 "2016-07-08T15:18:51Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > She probably would have beaten McCain, sure, since McCain beat himself at the end there. Obama would not have been her VP though, for the same reason Clinton wasn’t Obama’s VP. Obama would certainly be the frontrunner today had that been how things shook out, but he’d be frontrunner from the Senate. Lehman Brothers beat McCain. After 9-15-08 there was almost no chance that the Republicans could have won a third term. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/279 "2016-07-08T17:43:58Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Obama would have very obviously been her Veep – if she had won, she would have understood that black Democrats would have been very, very frustrated. And Obama would have been a near-perfect Veep candidate – very different from her tonally, young, charismatic and excellent on the stump, etc. The ensuing Obama-Palin debate would’ve been _legen_-wait-for-it-_dary_. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2016, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/280 "2016-07-08T17:51:53Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > The ensuing Obama-Palin debate would’ve been _legen_-wait-for-it-_dary_. Only in that it’s hard to debate an opponent when you haven’t a clue what the hell she just tried to say. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873.md?page=15)