# Hillary Clinton's Presidential Campaign Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873 "2016-05-04T11:09:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 38
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/741 "2016-08-21T01:58:03Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > No. None of the mothers I know think any better of Trump because he took advantage of a tragedy for a photo-op. > > Of course, I know \*\*wealthy \*\*and/or educated mothers. sounds like true Hillary supporters. ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/742 "2016-08-21T02:02:30Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > HRC: Taking care of the details of business, like she always does > > Obama: Doing his job and respecting the legal authority of the Governor of Louisiana > > Trump: Interrupts relief efforts to stage a photo-op when he’s supposed to be richer than King Midas and should merely be able to write a check during a photo-op. 2 sides. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/743 "2016-08-21T02:19:59Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > 2 sides. Are you going to reply to every freaking post? ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/744 "2016-08-21T03:10:10Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Are you going to reply to every freaking post? nope … but gonna reply to your question . b/c moderator said i should answer all questions. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/745 "2016-08-21T03:33:37Z")
JohnL, what the hell are you talking about? Please, for the love of all that’s holy, stop being so fucking cryptic and/or lazy with your replies. Here’s what you should shoot for: complete sentences, with an actual noun and a verb; capitalization; punctuation; fully formed words. I’m glad you’re here. I really, really want to understand the mind of a Trump supporter, but I can’t wrap my head around your posts most of the time. And I feel like there are so many of your posts these days that I can’t escape them in any of the political threads I’m following. Seriously, are you posting from a flip phone? ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/746 "2016-08-21T04:10:50Z")
> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#): > > JohnL, what the hell are you talking about? Please, for the love of all that’s holy, stop being so fucking cryptic and/or lazy with your replies. Here’s what you should shoot for: complete sentences, with an actual noun and a verb; capitalization; punctuation; fully formed words. > > I’m glad you’re here. I really, really want to understand the mind of a Trump supporter, but I\*\* can’t wrap my head around\*\* your posts most of the time. And I feel like there are so many of your posts these days that I can’t escape them in any of the political threads I’m following. Seriously, are you posting from a flip phone? no. no flip phone , since i retired many yrs ago. 12 yr old computer too. only thing current is my mind. sorry , i’m just a simple man – simple mind – simple posts. i’ll be happy to explain any posts you can’t get your head to wrap around. just let me know. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/747 "2016-08-21T04:13:19Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 8:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/748 "2016-08-21T08:00:21Z")
> [@john\_L](#): > > i’ll be happy to explain any posts you can’t get your head to wrap around. > just let me know. OK, what does “2 sides” mean? Coleslaw AND baked beans? ---
**Author:** ![crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@crucible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crucible)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/749 "2016-08-21T10:16:19Z")
The demographic that is represented by flood-victim whites in Louisiana both hate and fear HRC. Nothing she does or doesn’t will change that. Her best strategy is to not pander to them, to let them stew in their own body fluids. Their hate is destructive to themselves only, not to her. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/750 "2016-08-21T10:48:16Z")
Obama, after consulting with his poiltical team, has decided to pander however. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/751 "2016-08-21T11:14:48Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Obama, after consulting with his poiltical team, has decided to pander however. It’s appropriate for a president to visit a natural disaster site. But not when the governor says that it’s best to wait. So he waited, and then he’ll go. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/752 "2016-08-21T11:17:53Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > Obama, after consulting with his poiltical team, has decided to pander however. In what way? By not going? Sending FEMA? How? ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/753 "2016-08-21T11:24:16Z")
By going after saying it would be best for him not to. However, an esteemed liberal poster already delivered the administration’s spin, saving us the trouble of tuning into the press conference. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/754 "2016-08-21T12:36:32Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > By going after saying it would be best for him not to. However, an esteemed liberal poster already delivered the administration’s spin, saving us the trouble of tuning into the press conference. He didn’t say he wouldn’t go, just that he wouldn’t go when his security would interfere with rescue and relief. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/755 "2016-08-21T13:38:46Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > By going after saying it would be best for him not to. However, an esteemed liberal poster already delivered the administration’s spin, saving us the trouble of tuning into the press conference. It’s frustrating, I’m sure, but all you can do is continue to lead by example, and pray that one day others show the same level of objectivity and refreshing lack of partisanship that are synonymous with the name **adaher**. ---
**Author:** ![john\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c2a13f/32.png) [@john\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/john_L)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/756 "2016-08-22T00:30:27Z")
> [@crucible](#): > > The demographic that is represented by\*\* flood-victim \*\ ***whites** in Louisiana both hate and fear HRC. Nothing she does or doesn’t will change that. Her best strategy is to not pander to them, to let them stew in their own body fluids. Their hate is destructive to themselves only, not to her. only problem w/ that is that Baton Rouge is 55% black. only 36% white. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/757 "2016-08-22T14:00:45Z")
Hillary’s campaign is confident enough of winning Va. and Colo. that it will run no ads there: [http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/22/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-ads/index.html](http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/22/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign-ads/index.html) She’s also extended her lead in Ohio: [Poll: Hillary Clinton extends lead in Ohio - CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/poll-hillary-clinton-extends-lead-ohio-iowa-donald-trump/) ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/758 "2016-08-23T17:14:47Z")
Hillary opens up a 16-point lead in Virginia. [http://www.politico.com/blogs/swing-states-2016-election/2016/08/poll-virginia-clinton-trump-227315](http://www.politico.com/blogs/swing-states-2016-election/2016/08/poll-virginia-clinton-trump-227315) > [@](#): > > Asked whether their backing of either major candidate is more because of their support of either Clinton or Trump or their disdain for the alternative, a plurality of Clinton voters (49 percent for Clinton to 38 percent against Trump) suggested the former, while the reverse held for Trump voters (49 percent against Clinton to 35 percent for Trump). ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/759 "2016-08-23T22:04:18Z")
Nationally, Hillary leads Trump by 12 points in Reuters/Ipsos poll of likely voters: > [@](#): > > Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton leads Republican rival Donald Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, her strongest showing this month, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Tuesday. The August 18-22 poll showed that 45 percent of voters supported Clinton, while 33 percent backed Trump ahead of the Nov. 8 election. > > \*\*Clinton, the former U.S. secretary of state, has led Trump, a New York businessman, throughout most of the 2016 campaign. But her latest lead represents a stronger level of support than polls indicated over the past few weeks. Earlier in August, Clinton’s lead over Trump ranged from 3 to 9 percentage points in the poll. \*\* > > The poll also found that about 22 percent of likely voters would not pick either candidate. That lack of support is high compared with how people responded to the poll during the 2012 presidential election between Democratic President Barack Obama and Republican Mitt Romney. “Those who are wavering right now are just as likely to be thinking about supporting a third-party candidate instead, and not between Clinton and Trump,” said Tom Smith, who directs the Center for the Study of Politics and Society at the University of Chicago. > **[Hillary Clinton Leads by 12 in Latest Voter Poll](https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-poll-donald-trump-492916)** > > Meanwhile, 22 percent of likely voters would not pick either candidate. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/760 "2016-08-23T22:18:10Z")
[Hillary beginning major outreach to disaffected Romney supporters](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/clinton-mitt-romney-allies-funds-defeat-trump-227329) > [@](#): > > Already, Clinton’s team has won over business executive Meg Whitman, a close friend of Romney’s who was a major part of his political finance team. The Democrat has also hooked Romney finance council members David Nierenberg and Harry Sloan, the latter of whom wrote a $33,400 check for Clinton and the Democratic Party. > > Jim Cicconi, an AT&T executive and veteran of both the George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan White Houses who is now supporting Clinton, told POLITICO he is planning to host an event for Clinton along with some of his Democratic colleagues. Until now, he has largely been involved in policy, not fundraising, discussions with the Democratic campaign. > > “I certainly did my best to raise some money for Romney and contributed,” he said, and now “I will certainly be making some calls and sending some notes out” for Clinton. > > “If Trump’s team had been organized, effective, or putting the party and winning above pettiness, they would have immediately worked — after he became the Republican nominee — through a list of his opponent’s supporters,” explained Republican lawyer Charlie Spies, Romney’s chief financial officer and counsel in 2008 before helping launch his super PAC in 2012. “Instead, they did not. They also made clear: Mr. Trump does not reach out to people, you’re either on board or you’re not.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873.md?page=37) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873.md?page=39)