# Hillary Clinton's Presidential Campaign Discussion **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 4, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873 "2016-05-04T11:09:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 72
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1423 "2016-09-20T03:34:55Z")
> [@GulfTiger](#): > > He’s playing 4-D intergalactic chess with her. 😃 It’s not mere coincidence that the polls tightened after her campaign started their hilariously out of touch assault against Pepe. This is clear evidence of meme magic. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1424 "2016-09-20T03:38:17Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > It’s not mere coincidence that the polls tightened after her campaign started their hilariously out of touch assault against Pepe. This is clear evidence of meme magic. who the fuck is Pepe? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1425 "2016-09-20T03:40:39Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > I wasn’t aware. Cite? Well, they sure as fuck dont want Clinton to win. A moronic naif buffoon in the White House would no doubt be better for their plans to make the USA look bad. True, he might use nukes… ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1426 "2016-09-20T03:48:14Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > who the fuck is Pepe? Pepe is the frog face of the alt right. > **[How Pepe the Frog Became a Nazi Trump Supporter and Alt-Right Symbol](https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-pepe-the-frog-became-a-nazi-trump-supporter-and-alt-right-symbol)** > > 4chan’s Pepe the Frog meme was wildly popular among ‘normies’—until white nationalists decorated him with swastikas and gave him a Trump button. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1427 "2016-09-20T03:48:23Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Well, they sure as fuck dont want Clinton to win. A moronic naif buffoon in the White House would no doubt be better for their plans to make the USA look bad. True, he might use nukes… ISIS does not care how the final confrontation ends, although I do think that they would like to see the use of nukes as it would radicalize more Muslims around the world. > **[ISIS Wants Donald Trump to Win, Believe He's Best Chance for Apocalyptic...](https://www.christianpost.com/news/isis-wants-donald-trump-to-win-believe-hes-best-chance-for-apocalyptic-showdown-168880/)** > > Islamic State recruiters are praying to Allah and calling on him to ensure that Donald Trump wins the presidential election in November, according to an analysis of postings on messaging services > [@](#): > > Finally, IS supporters believe that a Trump presidency will provide the best chance for IS to reach its ultimate goal — one final apocalyptic battle in the Syrian town of Dabiq. The jihadis and their supporters believe that in the final battle, the West will be defeated and allow radical Muslims to conquer the whole world before the coming of the Mahdi (the final redeemer of Islam who some Muslims believe will rule the world for a period of years before the day of judgment. Of course they will not get the Mahdi, apocalyptic cults are nothing but consistent on not getting what they want in their final battles. Still, they might get to see their enemies make terrible mistakes before that predictable end. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1428 "2016-09-20T03:53:13Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > who the fuck is Pepe? [Internet nerd crap.](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/pepe-the-frog) Scroll down to “Association with the Alt-Right” to see a summary of what I was talking about. Watching mainstream corporate news misinterpret and discuss internet memes as a serious subject has been one of the more surreal moments of this election. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1429 "2016-09-20T04:01:12Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Pepe is the frog face of the alt right. > > [How Pepe the Frog Became a Nazi Trump Supporter and Alt-Right Symbol](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/26/how-pepe-the-frog-became-a-nazi-trump-supporter-and-alt-right-symbol.html) It is clear that the point made by the Clinton people is that indeed Pepe had a more silly origin, but he has been adopted by the alt right. It is a similar move to what one gang that the police reported in Arizona did, they adopted the diamond as their symbol and could pass undetected by many as they used Diamondbacks and local jewelers t-shirts. But they do know why they wore those outfits, the same kind of fake indignation coming from the Alt-right using Pepe was there when teachers and security people remarked about what students and young adults on the street were wearing. Of course people that were not aware of what was going on did think that the authorities were being silly for complaining or setting restrictions. Right **marshmallow**? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1430 "2016-09-20T04:51:22Z")
I don’t know. Did it work? Did they shame non-gang members until they stopped wearing Diamondbacks jerseys? If fascists successfully appropriate Pepe, leftists should claim their own meme. Maybe [communist cats.](https://www.google.com/search?q=cat+communism&biw=1920&bih=936&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikx93xj53PAhXq8YMKHVwiDTMQ_AUIBigB) ---
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1431 "2016-09-20T04:53:06Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > By the by, did you notice the location, a hall at Temple University? Did it occur to you that a university hall seldom holds the human volume of a stadium? Now, I don’t know that the limit of attendance in this hall was 250, but I’ll bet you don’t either. Double down on didn’t even think to ask. Well, Hillary was the keynote speaker at a Baptist convention a few weeks ago and the turnout was embarrassing there too. They added wall partitions to make the place smaller. Corey Feldman’s band draws bigger crowds. > **[Photos: Embarrassing Turnout For Hillary Clinton Keynote Speech At Baptist...](https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2016/09/09/photos-embarrassing-turnout-hillary-clinton-keynote-speech-baptist-convention/)** > > Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton delivered a keynote speech at the National Baptist Convention Thursday night, but photos show that many people failed to show up. | Politics ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1432 "2016-09-20T04:56:02Z")
**PCP?** If the only cite you got is Blightbart, really, don’t bother. Saves wear and tear on the hamsters. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1433 "2016-09-20T05:03:01Z")
> [@marshmallow](#): > > I don’t know. Did it work? Did they shame non-gang members until they stopped wearing Diamondbacks jerseys? > > If fascists successfully appropriate Pepe, leftists should claim their own meme. Maybe [communist cats.](https://www.google.com/search?q=cat+communism&biw=1920&bih=936&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikx93xj53PAhXq8YMKHVwiDTMQ_AUIBigB) Well, let’s see. Trashman, Mr. Natural, Wavy Gravy, Phoebe Zeitgeist, Jesus of Nazareth, Eugene V. Debs…nah, we’re deep bench. ---
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1434 "2016-09-20T05:07:17Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > **PCP?** If the only cite you got is Blightbart, really, don’t bother. Saves wear and tear on the hamsters. There’s no debate she addressed the Baptist convention. None of the liberal media mentions attendance. But here’s another source. > **[If Hillary panders in an empty convention hall, did she make a sound? Check...](https://twitchy.com/brettt/2016/09/08/if-hillary-panders-in-an-empty-convention-hall-did-she-make-a-sound-check-out-these-pics-n533107)** > >   ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1435 "2016-09-20T05:47:00Z")
**If Hillary panders in an empty convention hall, did she make a sound? Check out these pics** An improvement over Blightbart, like chicken pox is better than measles. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1436 "2016-09-20T07:09:11Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Are any of you worried that Hillary could only get 250 people to show up at her rally at Temple University? Even when they live stream her press conferences she only gets a fraction of what Trump gets. If you aren’t worried, why not? Do you believe there is little relationship between crowd attendance and votes cast? > > [Students react to Clinton rally at Temple University | PhillyVoice](http://www.phillyvoice.com/students-react-clinton-rally-temple-university/) Nah, we already know that Clinton doesn’t really inspire slavish, cult-like devotion in her fanbase the way Trump does. That’s not exactly a bad thing. We also know (unlike you) that a university lecture hall does not seat 10,000 people. ---
**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1437 "2016-09-20T07:35:37Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Pepe is the frog face of the alt right. > > [How Pepe the Frog Became a Nazi Trump Supporter and Alt-Right Symbol](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/26/how-pepe-the-frog-became-a-nazi-trump-supporter-and-alt-right-symbol.html) Interesting! I definitely don’t think rally attendance is all that useful a metric (ask President Eugene McCarthy). But I do, as I noted on a Pit thread, really urge Hillary supporters in swing states to start displaying yard signs and bumper stickers, if they haven’t already. Social proof is important in close races. I lamented on that thread that of the people I know personally who displayed such public support for Obama in previous cycles, I’m the only one who is also doing so for Hillary this year. I get it: she’s nowhere near as hip as Obama, and putting up Clinton signage may hurt your street cred with lefties. But _this shit is important_, so get over it. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1438 "2016-09-20T07:50:24Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Nah, we already know that Clinton doesn’t really inspire slavish, cult-like devotion in her fanbase the way Trump does. That’s not exactly a bad thing. We also know (unlike you) that a university lecture hall does not seat 10,000 people. Not to mention that she already has some experience campaigning against someone who commands massive rallies and more overt enthusiasm. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1439 "2016-09-20T12:40:11Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Nah, we already know that Clinton doesn’t really inspire slavish, cult-like devotion in her fanbase the way Trump does. That’s not exactly a bad thing. We also know (unlike you) that a university lecture hall does not seat 10,000 people. I don’t think rally size matters but that last bit is a poor rebuttal. The Clinton campaign chose that room and there are undoubtedly bigger rooms than 250 seat lecture halls at Temple University. Now maybe Clinton prefers a smaller crowd but you usually pick the venue based on the expected turnout. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1440 "2016-09-20T13:15:26Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Not to mention that she already has some experience campaigning against someone who commands massive rallies and more overt enthusiasm. But she doesn’t have experience beating such a candidate. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1441 "2016-09-20T13:19:05Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > But she doesn’t have experience beating such a candidate. She beat Sanders rather soundly. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873/1442 "2016-09-20T14:48:50Z")
Trump’s shattering records for small donors: > **[Trump shatters GOP records with small donors](https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/trump-shatters-gop-records-with-small-donors-228338)** > > "He’s the Republican Obama," one operative says as Trump monetizes his Republican supporters. There’s definitely a big enthusiasm gap. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873.md?page=71) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-clintons-presidential-campaign-discussion/753873.md?page=73)