# Hillary for the Democratic nomination **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [January 2, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078 "2019-01-02T03:57:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/41 "2019-01-02T17:45:03Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I like her very much, and voted for her, but I feel that she us divisive. There are a lot of people who dislike her for some undefinable reason. I don’t think Hillary Clinton is divisive at all; I think people who believe she’s divisive are easily divided. I’m so sick of hearing how awful she is/was. She’s one of the smartest, most qualified candidates and people in this country are so goddamn fucking thick that they fell for a con artist. Yes I’m still bitter about it. And I’m not going to stop being bitter. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/42 "2019-01-02T18:11:32Z")
No. I believe political dynasties are anathema to the American ideal. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/43 "2019-01-02T18:55:30Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > No. > I believe political dynasties are anathema to the American ideal. A president Hillary Clinton wouldn’t be a dynasty. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/44 "2019-01-02T18:56:50Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > No. > I believe political dynasties are anathema to the American ideal. But putting people with lengthy and relevant experience and all the contacts in the right places into the most senior leadership position … nah, you’re right, that’s anathema now too. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/45 "2019-01-02T19:13:26Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > But putting people with lengthy and relevant experience and all the contacts in the right places into the most senior leadership position … nah, you’re right, that’s anathema now too. “As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/46 "2019-01-02T19:25:19Z")
There’s a huge portion of the electorate that would crawl naked over broken glass to vote against Hillary Clinton. That wouldn’t be insurmountable if she inspired the opposite as well. She has WAY too much baggage and had no coherent message last time. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/47 "2019-01-02T19:26:34Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I don’t know if this is shorthand for something. But if meant literally, I don’t see why that would matter. I don’t know how many times Hillary came to my state, nor do I care. She endorsed policies that would have helped people in Wisconsin. Actually being in Madison when she spoke about them seems irrelevant. So if she had conducted the entire campaign from New York, you figure that wouldn’t have made any difference? You visit and have rallies to fire up your voters and get them out. You do it to build loyalty and enthusiasm in local campaign workers. Winning an election takes more than a carefully crafted policy platform, as exhibited by current reality. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/48 "2019-01-02T19:39:32Z")
> [@garygnu](#): > > There’s a huge portion of the electorate that would crawl naked over broken glass to vote against Hillary Clinton. That wouldn’t be insurmountable if she inspired the opposite as well. She has WAY too much baggage and had no coherent message last time. Yes, something less than half the voters. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/49 "2019-01-02T19:41:37Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I voted Yes. > > “Please, PLEASE, Brer Fox - don’t throw me into that briar patch!” 😃 > > Regards, > Shodan Seriously, you want a second term for the psychopathic sexual predator? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/50 "2019-01-02T19:52:02Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Seriously, you want a second term for the psychopathic sexual predator? Shodan knows Trump is bad but he’s a liberal-tears-aholic. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/51 "2019-01-02T20:13:51Z")
Voted for Hillary because of Trump, but she was a bad choice for the Dem. party. I know you have not asked, but Elizabeth Warren is also a bad choice. They should, this time, go with Joe Biden, Beto, or possibly Bernie Sanders. I think Beto is the best choice in terms of being able to win. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/52 "2019-01-02T20:17:02Z")
How I would have voted based on other Repub. that ran: Cruz: Still Hillary for me. Carson: Still Hillary for me Jeb Bush: I would have probably voted Jeb Bush. Kasich: 50/50 Christie: Still Hillary for me Marco Rubio: Probably Rubio, but I may have regretted it seeing him now. Still, he would have had my vote I bet. Walker: Still Hillary for me ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/53 "2019-01-02T20:17:59Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Voted for Hillary because of Trump, but she was a bad choice for the Dem. party. > > I know you have not asked, but Elizabeth Warren is also a bad choice. They should, this time, go with Joe Biden, Beto, or possibly Bernie Sanders. I think Beto is the best choice in terms of being able to win. Actually, no doubt Biden is. But cue the wailing about “he’s too old”, since apparently it’s way more important to have a younger candidate lose to Trump than getting trump out. Pair Biden with a young minority progressive Veep. Not that I dont like Beto. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/54 "2019-01-02T20:44:11Z")
I voted no… but what I wouldn’t give to watch Trump’s face as he realizes he’s getting defeated by _Crooked Hil_ in a landslide. But come to think of it… * * * _Biden/Beto Never Forgetto! -----_ ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/55 "2019-01-02T20:49:56Z")
Biden-Beto would be a pretty good ticket, I have to admit. The Onion could show Beto really running things while Biden cracks beers and acts like a moron. Ah…I’m nostalgic for just a few years ago. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/56 "2019-01-02T20:56:00Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Biden-Beto would be a pretty good ticket, I have to admit. > . I wouldnt say no. Biden brings in the rust belt, while Beto can make the GOP fight hard for Texas and also brings in Fla, etc. There’s even a reasonable chance of Beto winning Texas. By no means a sure thing, of course. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/57 "2019-01-02T21:07:50Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yes, something less than half the voters. Winning the “popular vote” means something more than half, does it not? ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/58 "2019-01-02T21:12:40Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > I wouldnt say no. Biden brings in the rust belt, while Beto can make the GOP fight hard for Texas and also brings in Fla, etc. > > There’s even a reasonable chance of Beto winning Texas. By no means a sure thing, of course. By no means a sure thing? Beto lost in Texas. Why is it even remotely a possibility he could deliver Texas in a Presidential election? ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/59 "2019-01-02T21:17:36Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > By no means a sure thing? Beto lost in Texas. Why is it even remotely a possibility he could deliver Texas in a Presidential election? Because there were shenanigans in the Texas elections, if you voted the Straight Dem ticket, your vote went to Cruz, not Beto. Texas knew about this for years but refused to do anything about it. And a Presidential vote will be Beto vs Trump not Beto vs one of their own, Cruz. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2019, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078/60 "2019-01-02T21:19:13Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Biden-Beto would be a pretty good ticket, I have to admit. > > The Onion could show Beto really running things while Biden cracks beers and acts like a moron. > > Ah…I’m nostalgic for just a few years ago. I’ve said in other threads that Beto is a decent VP choice but I don’t see him being Cheney to Biden’s Bush. Beto is a good choice for VP because he’s proven himself a great campaigner and fundraiser, not because he’s any kind of Svengali. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-for-the-democratic-nomination/827078.md?page=4)