# Hillary in 2016?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 24, 2012, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653 "2012-09-24T03:45:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/1 "2012-09-24T03:45:11Z")

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BBC News just mentioned Bill Clinton is hinting at a 2016 White House run by Hillary.

I’d vote for her. She’d be 69 if and when she won.

> **[Bill Clinton hints Hillary could run for the White House](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/bill-clinton-hints-hillary-could-run-for-the-white-house-8166731.html)**

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/2 "2012-09-24T04:20:30Z")

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Works for me. I think she’s doing a pretty good job as SoS. In fact, it’s a bit of a shame if she makes a run, because she’d likely have to resign from State, to get the necessary “distance” for independence.

One tricky question, which can’t be answered now, is whether she will run on the Obama record…or against it.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/3 "2012-09-24T04:29:28Z")

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She’ll run on the record if it’s good, but as Obama showed, associating yourself with a record doesn’t mean you’ll actually follow the same policies. Clinton and Obama were two very different Presidents.

As for her age, who cares? Women live longer. 69 is nothing for a healthy, wealthy woman.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/4 "2012-09-24T04:35:22Z")

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I wouldn’t be enthuastic about voting in someone that old. The presidency is an extremely demanding and stressful job. It’s not for people in their seventies.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/5 "2012-09-24T04:42:40Z")

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> [@Trinopus](#):
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> Works for me. I think she’s doing a pretty good job as SoS. In fact, it’s a bit of a shame if she makes a run, because she’d likely have to resign from State, to get the necessary “distance” for independence.

Hasn’t she already said she’s resigning at the end of this year? SoS is such a brutal job. I can’t imagine wanting to do it more than 4 years, even if she isn’t running in 2016.

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/6 "2012-09-24T04:43:46Z")

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She’s got more cojones than any Republican candidate any day of the week. I’m in. I would actually haul my ass to the poll to vote for a female Democrat candidate. And I \*never \*vote. I think it would be most amusing to see what they call the “first man,” as well.

Reagan was 69 when he took office. McCain would have been 72, if he’d won the last election. I don’t think her age will be a problem at all.

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**Author:** ![Lanzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/74df32/32.png) [@Lanzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lanzy)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/7 "2012-09-24T04:51:31Z")

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I would vote for her.

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**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/8 "2012-09-24T04:53:51Z")

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I was going to start a thread similar to this, but about Bill. I mean, why not? By 2016 the Republicans should be sufficiently cowed, if not, that’s even better; Bill would be a shoo-in if the Republicans continued to bring the crazy.

I’ve watched a number of interviews with Bill lately, and he seems to be on top of his game, and I doubt any of the current crop of Republican nudniks could come close to holding their own with him in a debate. I’d go as far as to say it’d be an embarrassing blood bath.

So, yeah, {ahem}… Run Bill, Run!

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/9 "2012-09-24T05:04:35Z")

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Bill can’t run, per the 22nd Amendment.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/10 "2012-09-24T05:04:46Z")

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If the best candidate the Democrats can come up with in 2016 is a retired ex-Senator whose claim to fame is that she was married to a man who was president 16 years earlier, then the Republicans will _deserve_ to win.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/11 "2012-09-24T05:06:22Z")

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> [@Onomatopoeia](#):
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> I was going to start a thread similar to this, but about Bill. I mean, why not? By 2016 the Republicans should be sufficiently cowed, if not, that’s even better; Bill would be a shoo-in if the Republicans continued to bring the crazy.

> **[Twenty-second Amendment to the United States Constitution](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution)**
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> The Twenty-second Amendment (Amendment XXII) to the United States Constitution limits the number of times a person can be elected to the office of President of the United States to two terms, and sets additional eligibility conditions for presidents who succeed to the unexpired terms of their predecessors. Congress approved the Twenty-second Amendment on March 21, 1947, and submitted it to the state legislatures for ratification. That process was completed on February 27, 1951, when the requis...

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/12 "2012-09-24T05:10:34Z")

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I think the Republicans have created an opening for her by being so blindly obstructionist. I think a lot of Democrats feel Obama has been too accommodating. There’s a sense that if Hillary had been elected, she’d have kicked some ass.

That said, I think Andrew Coumo will be the Democratic nominee.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/13 "2012-09-24T05:12:41Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> If the best candidate the Democrats can come up with in 2016 is a retired ex-Senator whose claim to fame is that she was married to a man who was president 16 years earlier, then the Republicans will _deserve_ to win.

Retired? I don’t know how much you follow the news but Hillary Clinton isn’t retired.

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**Author:** ![Untoward\_Parable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/51bf81/32.png) [@Untoward\_Parable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Untoward_Parable)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/14 "2012-09-24T05:34:00Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> If the best candidate the Democrats can come up with in 2016 is a retired ex-Senator whose claim to fame is that she was married to a man who was president 16 years earlier, then the Republicans will _deserve_ to win.

You’re right sir, that’s a perfectly appropriate way to characterize her, mostly she’s just a wife of a president.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 5:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/15 "2012-09-24T05:35:46Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Retired? I don’t know how much you follow the news but Hillary Clinton isn’t retired.

Unless she changes her plans, she’ll be retired in 2016.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/16 "2012-09-24T06:13:28Z")

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> [@Rachellelogram](#):
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> She’s got more cojones than any Republican candidate any day of the week. I’m in. I would actually haul my ass to the poll to vote for a female Democrat candidate. And I \*never \*vote. I think it would be most amusing to see what they call the “first man,” as well.
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> Reagan was 69 when he took office. McCain would have been 72, if he’d won the last election. I don’t think her age will be a problem at all.

Dole was even older and we now know he could have served two terms just fine had he won in 1996.

To me, age is only a factor if the person seems to be losing their marbles. Not every old person has that problem. I’d vote for Paul Volcker, for example. Isn’t he like 140 years old? 🙂

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/17 "2012-09-24T06:38:31Z")

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> [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> Unless she changes her plans, she’ll be retired in 2016.

Assuming Obama is re-elected and doesn’t ask her to resign, the job of Secretary of State is hers up to Inauguration Day 2017. I would imagine as a realistic matter, she’d resign at some point if she made a serious run for the nomination. But there wouldn’t be any significant retirement period - she’d go directly from Secretary of State to presidential candidate.

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**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/18 "2012-09-24T06:55:33Z")

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> [@Siam\_Sam](#):
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> I’d vote for her. She’d be 69 if and when she won.

Yes, I can see Bill going for that to celebrate. 😉

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**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 7:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/19 "2012-09-24T07:07:59Z")

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> [@Untoward\_Parable](#):
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> You’re right sir, that’s a perfectly appropriate way to characterize her, mostly she’s just a wife of a president.

To the average voter, yes. I just don’t see any baby boomer being elected president again - much like JFK’s election was a torch-passing moment for his generation, so was Obama’s election the passing of the torch from that generation to his. The Clintons are yesterday’s politicians - whoever comes after Obama is going to be a Gen-Xer.

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**Author:** ![moonshot925](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f0a364/32.png) [@moonshot925](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonshot925)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-in-2016/635653/20 "2012-09-24T08:33:21Z")

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If Hillary runs in 2016, she’ll be as old as Reagan was when he ran in 1980 (69). Don’t think she’ll be able to pull it off like Reagan did. She’s not aging quite as gracefully. Despite his age, Reagan came across as a positive, energetic person on the campaign trail. Hillary…not so much.

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