# Hillary, is it time? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 19, 2016, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-it-time/749575 "2016-03-19T21:15:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulf_the_Unwashed)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-it-time/749575/101 "2016-03-22T15:31:46Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Branch Rickey could do that, being one man who ran a baseball team. He had the luxury of going out and finding the person he wanted, and of deciding that he had found him. > > There is no Branch Rickey for the electorate. I would oppose the existence or creation of a general manager of the country. > > We have the candidates we have. If you won’t vote for Hillary Clinton because she’s a woman, it doesn’t matter if it’s because you think she’s just not good enough to be the first woman president. Would she be good enough to be the hundredth? > > I don’t see people rushing to vote for a woman because GWB was such a terrible president. Funny how discrimination only works the one direction. What you’re missing here is the absolute certainty that if Jackie Robinson hadn’t been “acclaimed” to be an “exceptional baseball player,” why, there would never have been another African American major leaguer. It would have been one and done. No one would ever have taken a chance on a Roy Campanella, a Bob Gibson, an Ernie Banks. Today we wouldn’t have Andrew McCutchen, or Jason Heyward, or Prince Fielder, or any other black players. All because Robinson had washed out of the league. Sad! Fortunately, Rickey, in his infinite wisdom, picked a player who was…okay, I won’t say “perfect,” but I will say “acclaimed” as “exceptional.” Phew! We were spared the indignity of the color barrier going on for another 75 years. Sarcasm, just in case it wasn’t obvious. ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-it-time/749575/102 "2016-03-22T15:35:23Z")
> [@Ulf\_the\_Unwashed](#): > > What you’re missing here is the absolute certainty that if Jackie Robinson hadn’t been “acclaimed” to be an “exceptional baseball player,” why, there would never have been another African American major leaguer. It would have been one and done. No one would ever have taken a chance on a Roy Campanella, a Bob Gibson, an Ernie Banks. Today we wouldn’t have Andrew McCutchen, or Jason Heyward, or Prince Fielder, or any other black players. All because Robinson had washed out of the league. Sad! > > Fortunately, Rickey, in his infinite wisdom, picked a player who was…okay, I won’t say “perfect,” but I will say “acclaimed” as “exceptional.” Phew! We were spared the indignity of the color barrier going on for another 75 years. > > Sarcasm, just in case it wasn’t obvious. If Robinson had been a hothead, it’s possible that it would have impacted the integration of baseball. But I think it’s really really fucking important to note that even though Robinson was not a hothead, and even though he was a very good player, lots and lots and lots and lots of people wouldn’t have put him in the league, would have said it was too soon, would have asked if maybe there wasn’t someone else, someone better, would have said that it would be great to integrate baseball in the abstract but why him? Why now? Hindsight says that Rickey made a good choice. Millions of people, if they’d had the power to vote, would have voted against it. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-it-time/749575/103 "2016-03-22T15:53:03Z")
Remember all the hubbub about John F. Kennedy’s Catholicism? Kennedy ended up being very popular as a President, and the fear of a Catholic as President has dissipated, but even then, there hasn’t been another Catholic President since (John Kerry came the closest). What makes someone think that if not Hillary Clinton, we’ll have tons of women candidates banging on the door to the office of the President right after? ---
**Author:** ![MindsEye\_Watering](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mindseye_watering/32/3619_2.png) [@MindsEye\_Watering](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindsEye_Watering)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-it-time/749575/104 "2016-03-22T16:51:18Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > A first woman President, while being a historic figure under any circumstances, advances that cause much better if she is acclaimed an exceptionally good one. And Mrs. Clinton **will** be an exceptionally good president. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-it-time/749575/105 "2016-03-22T16:53:57Z")
But she won’t be “acclaimed” as such by the same people who’ve spent over seven years trying to make sure Obama wouldn’t be. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-it-time/749575.md?page=5)