# Hillary is right where she wants to be **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [February 10, 2016, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-right-where-she-wants-to-be/745712 "2016-02-10T14:46:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-right-where-she-wants-to-be/745712/21 "2016-02-10T19:51:17Z")
> [@spifflog](#): > > But it will cost her more money than she’d like… This is a significant factor. By coasting through the primaries and nomination, she could have banked a huge war chest which would be needed for the actual election race. As it is, she is needing to burn money now to fight off Sanders - money she could use later. ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-right-where-she-wants-to-be/745712/22 "2016-02-10T19:52:07Z")
> [@tullsterx](#): > > . . . Bill is a MASTER of the political game of expectations. . . he can turn a negative into a positive in a blink. What other president could get caught cheating on his wife, get impeached for his testimony about it, and get a bounce in popularity from it. While I agree with this, it apparently doesn’t rub off the way it should on Hillary. For example, there is no way in hell Bill would have ever said “we aren’t that well off.” Just no way. Which makes me think either Bill isn’t all that enamored with her becoming President, or he just can’t school her up. > [@tullsterx](#): > > I don’t they planned to lose New Hampshire, but I feel confident that Bill and Hillary are full of visions concerning how they’re going to turn this into a positive. I’m full of visions of me and beach full of supermodels on a Hawaiian beach. Bill still has visions of Gennifer with a “G.” I still wake up every morning and take the bus to work and he still wakes up with Hillary. Visions and 50 cents will get ya a cup of coffee. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-right-where-she-wants-to-be/745712/23 "2016-02-10T20:02:21Z")
> [@spifflog](#): > > Visions and 50 cents will get ya a cup of coffee. Vision and millions of dollars plus powerful political connections on the other hand… ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-right-where-she-wants-to-be/745712/24 "2016-02-10T20:14:19Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > Vision and millions of dollars plus powerful political connections on the other hand… . . . will give you a resume similar to Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney and Hillary in 2008. As I said, I can’t see any way she isn’t the nominee. But they can’t be happy with how things have gone thus far. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-right-where-she-wants-to-be/745712/25 "2016-02-10T20:36:07Z")
I don’t see why not. As you said, she’s in all likelihood getting the nomination. The numbers seem massively in her favour. So while I’m sure they didn’t like getting stomped so hard in NH, what else has she got to complain about? ---
**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-right-where-she-wants-to-be/745712/26 "2016-02-10T20:43:28Z")
What she has to complain about is that like 8 years ago, she began this as a coronation process. She hoped to emerge unscathed, her coffers full, and with an air of invincibility. She no doubt will emerge as the nominee. But she’s taking a bit of a beating, she has to spend more time effort and money than she’d like, and once again, voters are asking how she went from being the chosen one to having to slog it out. For the hundredth time, she’ll be the nominee. But to argue this is “right where she wants to be” and that “she has nothing to complain about” is just spin. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-right-where-she-wants-to-be/745712/27 "2016-02-10T20:51:21Z")
> [@CarnalK](#): > > I don’t see why not. As you said, she’s in all likelihood getting the nomination. The numbers seem massively in her favour. So while I’m sure they didn’t like getting stomped so hard in NH, what else has she got to complain about? She’s afraid of a long fight up to the convention. Even if she doesn’t know it herself her team must know that she’s losing voters now, not gaining them. Even if she runs out the clock with a delegate lead in the end it doesn’t make here look good. She needs big wins, the expectations are all on her side now, and Bernie will look good in any race where’s he’s close. They have plenty to worry about, and I don’t think they have the best people to work on this. Bernie has the best people now, he’s got the team that beat Hillary in 2008 working for him. I’ve heard several surprising comments in the past few days about the efficiency of his campaign, including from Jim Clyburn in South Carolina this morning. One of the problems with Hillary’s strategic coronation attempt is that leaves her backers asking “What have you done for me lately?”. Win or lose, if she doesn’t sew this up on Super Tuesday she won’t be president. She doesn’t need a numerical victory at that point, but it has to look like she has it in the cards or at the best she’ll be weak candidate for a divided party. Bernie has the same problem with worse odds though. If his movement falters at all it will be over for him. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2016, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-right-where-she-wants-to-be/745712/28 "2016-02-10T20:51:34Z")
I am not a Clinton booster so I am not trying to spin anything. I’m sure she’d be happier if Sanders got hit by a bus tomorrow but all told she’s probably feeling ok right now. eta: No reasonable forecast I’ve seen makes a long fight to the convention likely. Sanders just doesn’t have the numbers in the coming states. If Sharpton starts stumping for Sanders, THAT will be piss in her Cheerios. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-is-right-where-she-wants-to-be/745712.md?page=1)