# Hillary just lost the election. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 11, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663 "2016-09-11T16:04:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/201 "2016-09-12T03:18:22Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Clinton has now announced she is cancelling her trip to California. Very glad that she’s taking her health seriously. Pneumonia is nothing to mess around with. It’s easily treatable with rest and antibiotics. I tried to keep working and ended up hospitalized. A tough lesson to learn. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/202 "2016-09-12T03:23:51Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > When people point out that Trump won’t get much beyond 41 percent, I agree - he probably won’t. I think the extreme right wing probably knows that as well. The objective, thus, is to tear Hillary to pieces so that she gets down into 38-41 percent territory…which is very doable. And it’s doable when you basically confirm that a conspiracy theory has legs after all, which she did today. And Johson/Stein/et al. pick up the other 18-20%? ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/203 "2016-09-12T03:29:11Z")
When I googled it, pneumonia takes 1-3 weeks to recover from, though it said the individual should start feeling better after several days of antibiotics. Like the other poster said, unless she wants to suffer some kind of relapse or sabotage her own recovery she ought to take the time off to relax. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/204 "2016-09-12T03:33:36Z")
I think the California trip cancellation was expected and I agree it’s a good thing for her. I am really pissed off about the kind of press coverage this is getting, though, on mainstream sites like CNN. Right now the main headline is: _Weekend of stumbles_ Subheads are things like: _Clinton stumbles, reveals illness and cancels campaign trip Doctor: What Clinton’s stumble tells us_ And of course the inevitable video link: _See Clinton stumble_ :rolleyes: Honestly, it’s like the news was being written for a six-year-old: Dick and Jane are running a race! Oops! Jane falls down! Why did Jane fall down? See Jane fall down (picture on page 6). Meanwhile, the _New Yorker_ online hasn’t even mentioned her illness, but is focusing on “basket of deplorables” as a potential political gaffe that might allow the Trump campaign to position themselves as uniters. But that’s pretty boring to the Dick and Jane crowd. They want to see Jane stumble. Is there any hope for democracy? ---
**Author:** ![TimeWinder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bcef8e/32.png) [@TimeWinder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TimeWinder)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/205 "2016-09-12T03:35:07Z")
> [@asahi](#): > > IMO, the real danger is this: what happens if even a handful of democrats come out in the next 24 hours and suggest she step aside? Or worse, she gets stabbed by a rampaging unicorn herd? Just asking questions here… ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/206 "2016-09-12T03:36:20Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > It’s fun watching all you Trumpistas trying to make yourselves feel better about the fact that your orangutan is going to go down in one of the biggest electoral defeats in US history. Rave on, delusionals! Sane people will get the last laugh in November. I wish i were as confident as you, my friend. This is not going to be 1936, or 1964, or 1972, or 1984. I still think Clinton will win, but i don’t think it will be one of the biggest electoral defeats in history. I would, however, be incredibly happy to be proven wrong. > [@pool](#): > > When I googled it, pneumonia takes 1-3 weeks to recover from, though it said the individual should start feeling better after several days of antibiotics. Like the other poster said, unless she wants to suffer some kind of relapse or sabotage her own recovery she ought to take the time off to relax. If reason and sanity dominated the American political landscape, Clinton should be able to take four weeks to lie in bed and recover, and still win 48 out of 50 states. Unfortunately, that’s not the world we’re in. ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/207 "2016-09-12T03:37:24Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Rudy Giuliani has gone on and on about Hillary’s health. Today, she leaves a 9/11 event feeling ill. We’ll never hear the end of this and of course, Trump will point out that she’s medically unfit to be POTUS. Needless to say, this will echo from now to November. > > Today, Hillary lost the election. ☹ 1. I still stand by the opinion that Hillary can’t lose no matter what happens. 2. From what I see the play about her medical fitness is a loser. The smarter play is how she brushed off the questions when she was leaving her daughter’s place. Forget fitness and play up the lack of transparency. ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/208 "2016-09-12T03:40:02Z")
pneumonia isn’t good news for elderly people and Hillary already has health issues from the fall she had. She wasn’t able to walk on her own today . If her health can’t hold up during campaigning how the hell is going to as president of USA !!?? Trump isn’t going to let this go away quietly , he already said Hillary’s health isn’t good and this is going to score big in Trump’s camp ! Damn fool of a woman running for president with her health issues and baggage ! I agree she is washed up ! SHIT ! I couldn’t seeing her winning the election before and I sure don’t see it happening now . She had a cough for awhile now and I knew it wasn’t from allergies like she said it was . ---
**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/209 "2016-09-12T03:41:46Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Clinton should be able to take four weeks to lie in bed and recover. This would be best for her, and she should cancel the debates too. #GetWellSoonHillary ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/210 "2016-09-12T03:43:10Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > I wish i were as confident as you, my friend. This is not going to be 1936, or 1964, or 1972, or 1984. > > I still think Clinton will win, but i don’t think it will be one of the biggest electoral defeats in history. I would, however, be incredibly happy to be proven wrong. Here’s my conspiracy theory: the media has bought off on the “unscripted” reality TV show drama and every election will be a nail biter, even if it really isn’t. It’s frustrating but the media is going to keep those ratings pumped 'til the end. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/211 "2016-09-12T03:43:12Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > pneumonia isn’t good news for elderly people and Hillary already has health issues from the fall she had. She wasn’t able to walk on her own today . If her health can’t hold up during campaigning how the hell is going to as president of USA !!?? Trump isn’t going to let this go away quietly , he already said Hillary’s health isn’t good and this is going to score big in Trump’s camp ! Damn fool of a woman running for president with her health issues and baggage ! I agree she is washed up ! SHIT ! I couldn’t seeing her winning the election before and I sure don’t see it happening now . She had a cough for awhile now and I knew it wasn’t from allergies like she said it was . Thank you, Doctor Aid. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/212 "2016-09-12T03:49:14Z")
> [@purplehearingaid](#): > > pneumonia isn’t good news for elderly people and Hillary already has health issues from the fall she had. She wasn’t able to walk on her own today . If her health can’t hold up during campaigning how the hell is going to as president of USA !!?? Trump isn’t going to let this go away quietly , he already said Hillary’s health isn’t good and this is going to score big in Trump’s camp ! Damn fool of a woman running for president with her health issues and baggage ! I agree she is washed up ! SHIT ! I couldn’t seeing her winning the election before and I sure don’t see it happening now . She had a cough for awhile now and I knew it wasn’t from allergies like she said it was . This is the break the (provisional, honorary, not-affiliated-with-any-actual-Sanderses) Sanders campaign has been waiting for! And I’m only half-joking…I’ve seen plenty of online comments today expecting her to step aside and let Bernie take over. Which is batshit. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/213 "2016-09-12T03:49:25Z")
> [@pool](#): > > When I googled it, pneumonia takes 1-3 weeks to recover from, though it said the individual should start feeling better after several days of antibiotics. Like the other poster said, unless she wants to suffer some kind of relapse or sabotage her own recovery she ought to take the time off to relax. Thank you Google. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/214 "2016-09-12T03:54:45Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by **levdrakon** > Thank you Google. Google says you’re welcome. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/215 "2016-09-12T04:12:27Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I’m shaking my head at a lot of these comments. If you saw the video and don’t think this has become a huge issue you are deluding yourself. It will be interesting to see how much of a change there will be on 538. Trump has been creeping up before this happened. I have no idea about the magnitude of the issue, but I just now watched the video as I was out all day and the first thing I thought of was Weekend at Bernie’s. Before the car pulls up she’s either leaning or propped against that barrier thing. I would be worried if that was someone I knew. It seems like she recovered quickly but it’s not a flattering video. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/216 "2016-09-12T04:16:29Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > All right, you might take this with a grain of salt or an entire shaker, but [Report of DNC emergency meeting to consider replacing Hillary Clinton.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/11/breaking-dnc-calling-emergency-meeting-to-consider-replacing-hillary-clinton-details/) [Report of RNC emergency meetings to consider replacing Hillary Clinton](https://gop.com/topic/gop-rnc-meetings/canonical/). ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/217 "2016-09-12T04:52:38Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > I would be worried if that was someone I knew. It seems like she recovered quickly but it’s not a flattering video. It looked bad because I think she didn’t really do what she should have done. If she’d have just gotten off her feet ASAP and maybe had a little water, I don’t think it would have gotten that bad. But instead they marched her out to the street and propped her up until the van arrived. And now instead of headlines about how she sat and drank some water for a minute or two (which would have been big in the fever swamps but not gotten any mainstream attention), there’s video of her limp body being pushed into a van. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/218 "2016-09-12T04:53:02Z")
> [@Randolph](#): > > [Report of RNC emergency meetings to consider replacing Hillary Clinton](https://gop.com/topic/gop-rnc-meetings/canonical/). Yeah, because [gop.com](http://gop.com) is a neutral source. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/219 "2016-09-12T05:15:52Z")
Even if she were laid out stone-cold dead, I would vote for Hillary over Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/220 "2016-09-12T05:17:02Z")
From several days ago: **Hillary’s Health Concerns Serious, Say Most Doctors Polled by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons** > [@](#): > > Concerns about Hillary Clinton’s health are “serious—could be disqualifying for the position of President of the U.S.,” say nearly 71% of 250 physicians responding to an informal internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS). About 20% said concerns were “likely overblown, but should be addressed as by full release of medical records.” Only 2.7% responded that they were “just a political attack; I have confidence in the letter from her physician and see no cause for concern.” > > While more than 81% were aware of her history of a concussion, only 59% were aware of the cerebral sinus thrombosis, and 52% of the history of deep venous thrombosis. > > More than 78% said the health concerns had received “not enough emphasis” in the media, and only 2.7% that there had been “too much emphasis.” [Cite](http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/hillarys-health-concerns-serious-say-most-doctors-polled-by-the-association-of-american-physicians-and-surgeons-aaps-300325065.html) Questions about Hillary’s health are more concerning, more widespread and more legitimate than many posters here can bring themselves to admit. As for me I’m almost starting to feel sorry for the old harpy. She’s chased the golden ring of the presidency most of her adult life and sacrificed a great deal in its pursuit, and now it truly looks like it’s starting to fall apart before her very eyes. If she weren’t such a smug, condescending, hateful, lying bitch I’d probably be feeling sorry for her already, but as it is I can’t quite make myself pull the trigger. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663.md?page=12)