# Hillary just lost the election. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 11, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663 "2016-09-11T16:04:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/281 "2016-09-12T15:04:19Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > Don’t forget, the Harriet Jones government was brought down by the sentence “Don’t you think she looks tired?” I always thought that was a particularly stupid moment in the show. Even if you assume that it is comparable to real life, that’s a condemnation of the voting public and not the politician. I like to think that I’m a little more intelligent than that. I can’t do anything about what other people think. I just will continue to plan to vote for Hillary. ---
**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/282 "2016-09-12T15:08:01Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You mean she rose from her bed of pain, and, against the advice of her doctors, bravely dragged herself to the event to honor our heroes! Yes, exactly. The War Room called it right with the Sunday disclosure of Friday diagnosis, and all is well. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/283 "2016-09-12T15:11:09Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Even this is extraordinary. > > Clinton says “basket of deplorables,” and it’s outrageous. > > Trump has accumulated a list of more outrageous comments, and…? Nothing. This double standard has been on-going for decades. Compare the attention paid to Clinton “scandals” with the attention paid to Bush-Cheney perfidy. Consider that in 2004 when a war hero ran against a lying shirker and war criminal, “doubts” about the war hero dominated the campaign. You just didn’t notice it until the GOP finally came up with a candidate even you could detest. ---
**Author:** ![purplehearingaid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7bcc69/32.png) [@purplehearingaid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/purplehearingaid)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/284 "2016-09-12T15:17:28Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > Depressing. I supported Hillary in '08, but Dems turned on her and decided Obama was the Messiah. She had tons of energy back then, as evidenced by her time as Sec of State. Now it might be too late. > > I’d vote for her over Trump if she had to serve from a hospital bed, but I’m not sure enough other people will. > > Let’s hope this was nothing but a bit of dizziness and she can rally. It has all over the news that her doctor said she has pneumonia , that cough she had on TV wasn’t from being dizzy. She could be still getting dizzy from that fall she had . She had double vision for 6 months, she had pretty bad concussion and this doesn’t really go away . ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/285 "2016-09-12T15:19:10Z")
If anyone’s interested, I decided to refresh my memory on the “don’t you think she looks tired” line. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/GidbEhL0teE/hqdefault.jpg "The Doctor Vs The Prime Minister | Doctor Who | The Christmas Invasion | BBC") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GidbEhL0teE) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/286 "2016-09-12T15:35:31Z")
> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#): > > Google women with sexual fantasies about Trump. _Without_ a gun to my head? ---
**Author:** ![GoodOmens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@GoodOmens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GoodOmens)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/287 "2016-09-12T15:43:48Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > The tighty righty internet is all abuzz about her VP choice, and the emerging scandal about Kaine and his brother. What’s this about The Undertaker? ---
**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/288 "2016-09-12T15:47:40Z")
I’m not American so I have no particular dog in this contest apart from being an interested bystander. However I was thinking about this today and I was wondering if, assuming the rumours of ill-health are true, Hillary Clinton does not intend to serve for the full four years, never mind a potential eight years, but that the presidency itself is the prize. As first female President her place in history would be assured and she can step aside after a few months letting her vice-president take over? Of course thats only idle speculation, we’ll just have to wait to see what happens. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/289 "2016-09-12T15:49:18Z")
Her #1 priority now needs to be: get healthy and whole before the debate later this month. If she can do that, she should be fine. It was probably a smart move to cancel the CA trip and not risk prolonging the symptoms. If she’s hacking up mucous during the debate, that will not be good! ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/290 "2016-09-12T15:50:51Z")
> [@](#): > > Without a gun to my head? Did it. No actual results for “women with sexual fantasies about Trump.” No. 1 result is “Top Sexual Fantasies of Women”. DFH of mature years didn’t make the cut, so its probably unreliable. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/291 "2016-09-12T16:10:07Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Her #1 priority now needs to be: get healthy and whole before the debate later this month. If she can do that, she should be fine. She’s still damaged herself by not revealing the pneumonia diagnosis and by lying about her coughing fit on Labor Day being allergies, saying that “they’d gone back and looked and every Labor Day…”. I knew she was lying the instant she said that. Allergens vary widely by location, time of year and many other variables, and it more than strains credulity that no matter where she was in the world or in this country she’d get allergic coughing fits every Labor Day. Like [this opinion piece](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/clinton-pneumonia-cover-story-proves-instinct-lie-article-1.2788402) says her first instinct is to lie, and one of the things she’s had to struggle against most this election cycle is her reputation for lying. And now she’s just kicked it up another notch. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/292 "2016-09-12T16:17:52Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > She’s still damaged herself by not revealing the pneumonia diagnosis and by lying about her coughing fit on Labor Day being allergies, saying that “they’d gone back and looked and every Labor Day…”. I knew she was lying the instant she said that. Allergens vary widely by location, time of year and many other variables, and it more than strains credulity that no matter where she was in the world or in this country she’d get allergic coughing fits every Labor Day. > > Like [this opinion piece](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/clinton-pneumonia-cover-story-proves-instinct-lie-article-1.2788402) says her first instinct is to lie, and one of the things she’s had to struggle against most this election cycle is her reputation for lying. And now she’s just kicked it up another notch. Spot on. Show us the sputum, Hillary - was it yellow, green, or clear? How can we trust her if we don’t know the color of her mucus? What is she hiding? ---
**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/293 "2016-09-12T16:22:33Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > Like [this opinion piece](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/clinton-pneumonia-cover-story-proves-instinct-lie-article-1.2788402) says her first instinct is to lie Because opinion writers can read minds. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/294 "2016-09-12T16:22:53Z")
> [@Disposable Hero](#): > > As first female President her place in history would be assured and she can step aside after a few months letting her vice-president take over? Great user name/post combo. ---
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/295 "2016-09-12T16:27:30Z")
> [@OwnRules](#): > > Not a woman by any stretch of the imagination, but have no idea what they could find “charismatic” about a guy that wears a dead ferret on his head and speaks like a sixth grader on repeat. > > With no small amount of trepidation, I also “dared” to google your alleged Trump-based sexual fantasies and really, [not much there](https://www.google.com/search?q=women+with+sexual+fantasies+about+Trump&client=firefox-b&biw=1056&bih=488&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjAq7GAiorPAhWM6SYKHbUYC7QQ_AUIBygA&dpr=1.82&gfe_rd=cr&ei=78DWV8jqNIrUgATO366YAQ). > > That said, as long as we’re being puerile, try changing the search name to “Obama.” Just don’t do it at work. I can’t believe you actually did it. :D:D:D:D ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/296 "2016-09-12T16:28:05Z")
My conspiracy theory: Hillary was infected by Russian agents with a drug-resistant bacteria strain that will defy treatment and lead to her withdrawal from the race. Certainly Putin has the motive and means to pull it off. ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/297 "2016-09-12T16:34:15Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > My conspiracy theory: Hillary was infected by Russian agents with a drug-resistant bacteria strain that will defy treatment and lead to her withdrawal from the race. Certainly Putin has the motive and means to pull it off. Isn’t he more of a polonium kind of guy? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/298 "2016-09-12T16:35:55Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > [I repeat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hssPVz33aDE) I’ll only give you one warning for these two posts, Superdude. You don’t get to tell other posters to shut up. And the linking thing is wrong, too. Don’t do it again. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/299 "2016-09-12T16:36:12Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You mean she rose from her bed of pain, and, against the advice of her doctors, bravely dragged herself to the event to honor our heroes! I think that perhaps some of you have made a mistake. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/s6UbYHCkoZs/hqdefault.jpg "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington Speech") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6UbYHCkoZs&t=136) I look forward to seeing if I’m right after the election. You know, its an odd thing? ! have a funniest feeling that I have nothing at all to worry about… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/300 "2016-09-12T16:43:53Z")
Re: Clinton Body Double I’m sort of on the fence about this theory, but I think Clinton’s body double is the one who emerged from Chelsea’s 10 million dollar condo after the medical episode. (1) No secret service or other handlers around her. (2) She is noticeably more energetic in a way I haven’t seen her recently. (3) Her index finger is longer than her ring finger while her body double has the opposite. (4) She looks much thinner. (5) The young girl was allowed to run up and hug her. It could have been staged but still odd. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663.md?page=16)