# Hillary just lost the election.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 11, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663 "2016-09-11T16:04:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/301 "2016-09-12T16:47:05Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Serious question: how much do/did non-conservative voters really hear about accusations/conspiracy theories about Clinton’s health before this, especially those that would be disqualifying for office? Sure, we know about all the right wing pundits blogs, and Trump has been pushing it to some extent, but it occurred to me that some sense of it is almost necessary for this incident to have maximum impact, and I realized I didn’t know how generally known it was.

It goes back to her fall and concussion way back in 2012. They saw an opening and have been tracking her every sniffle since then.

> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> I can’t believe you actually did it. :D:D:D:D

Don’t bluff with cites on the SD. No matter how vile or disgusting, some Doper will pluck up the courage to check it out. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/302 "2016-09-12T16:51:30Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Re: Clinton Body Double
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> I’m sort of on the fence about this theory, but I think Clinton’s body double is the one who emerged from Chelsea’s 10 million dollar condo after the medical episode.
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> (1) No secret service or other handlers around her.  
> (2) She is noticeably more energetic in a way I haven’t seen her recently.  
> (3) Her index finger is longer than her ring finger while her body double has the opposite.  
> (4) She looks much thinner.  
> (5) The young girl was allowed to run up and hug her. It could have been staged but still odd.

It was the Paul McCartney clone that replaced Sir Paul in 1967. He had all the same traits. Put him in a wig…

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**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/303 "2016-09-12T16:57:21Z")

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HIllary’s secretive, right. Remind me, when is Trump releasing his tax returns again?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/304 "2016-09-12T16:58:34Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Re: Clinton Body Double
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> I’m sort of on the fence about this theory, but I think Clinton’s body double is the one who emerged from Chelsea’s 10 million dollar condo after the medical episode.
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> (1) No secret service or other handlers around her.  
> (2) She is noticeably more energetic in a way I haven’t seen her recently.  
> (3) Her index finger is longer than her ring finger while her body double has the opposite.  
> (4) She looks much thinner.  
> (5) The young girl was allowed to run up and hug her. It could have been staged but still odd.

Bollocks – the body double was the human version that stumbled; this one was the lizard-alien one in human disguise, which is nigh-indestructible.

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**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/305 "2016-09-12T17:05:52Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Don’t bluff with cites on the SD. No matter how vile or disgusting, some Doper will pluck up the courage to check it out. 🙂

I just hope they clear their browsing history. It will be a hard one to explain especially in a liberal household.:)🙂

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**Author:** ![spifflog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@spifflog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spifflog)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/306 "2016-09-12T17:18:58Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> And there are people on the other side who would vote for a corpse over Hilary. It’s the people who don’t feel so strongly that are in play.

- 100%

95% of the dopers would vote for any Democrat over any Republican.

95% of the far right will vote for any Republican over any Democrat.

These voters are lovers or haters no matter what she does.  
It’s the 15% of the undecided voters who will determine if this is a big deal.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/307 "2016-09-12T17:22:58Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> Re: Clinton Body Double
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> I’m sort of on the fence about this theory, but I think Clinton’s body double is the one who emerged from Chelsea’s 10 million dollar condo after the medical episode.
> 
> (1) No secret service or other handlers around her.  
> (2) She is noticeably more energetic in a way I haven’t seen her recently.  
> (3) Her index finger is longer than her ring finger while her body double has the opposite.  
> (4) She looks much thinner.  
> (5) The young girl was allowed to run up and hug her. It could have been staged but still odd.

You’re a great source to regurgitate The Latest Far Right Ideas. **adaher** tries, but he is a little too smart to repeat the worst crap.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/308 "2016-09-12T17:25:33Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> (5) The young girl was allowed to run up and hug her. It could have been staged but still odd.

Of course it was staged. Everything that woman does is for effect.

I note also that Hillary didn’t hug her. She motioned (commanded actually) the little girl to come to her. When the little girl got there (seemingly unsure why she was there or what to do) Hillary perfunctorily turned her toward the cameras for a photo op and then turned and walked off without so much as a word to the little girl. #whattabitch.

[Cite](https://youtu.be/8fVC9qWeMW8)

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/309 "2016-09-12T17:29:42Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Of course it was staged. Everything that woman does is for effect.
> 
> I note also that Hillary didn’t hug her. She motioned (commanded actually) the little girl to come to her. When the little girl got there (seemingly unsure why she was there or what to do) Hillary perfunctorily turned her toward the cameras for a photo op and then turned and walked off without so much as a word to the little girl. #whattabitch.
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> [Cite](https://youtu.be/8fVC9qWeMW8)

That’s 'cause the little “girl” was a robot, probably manufactured by various wealthy Clinton Foundation donors. You can tell because humans don’t want to hug Hillary Clinton – certainly not human little girls. Hillary Clinton (the indestructible lizard version, anyway) reeks of sulfur from the depths of hell.

It’s certainly not the case that Hillary Clinton is a human person and some other human people, including some human little girls, might actually like and be inspired by her. That would be ridiculous!

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/310 "2016-09-12T17:30:30Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I note also that Hillary didn’t hug her. She motioned (commanded actually) the little girl to come to her. When the little girl got there (seemingly unsure why she was there or what to do) Hillary perfunctorily turned her toward the cameras for a photo op and then turned and walked off without so much as a word to the little girl. #whattabitch.

Is this a whoosh? You maybe would’ve preferred she’d hugged the kid tight and gone for a kiss square on the lips while gasping out _“pneumonia”_ over and over?

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/311 "2016-09-12T17:33:48Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Rudy Giuliani has gone on and on about Hillary’s health. Today, she leaves a 9/11 event feeling ill. We’ll never hear the end of this and of course, Trump will point out that she’s medically unfit to be POTUS. Needless to say, this will echo from now to November.
> 
> Today, Hillary lost the election. ☹

So wait, you’re telling me that a vote for Hillary (the candidate that I intend to vote for while holding my nose) might actually be a vote for Tim Kaine?!?!?!

That’s AWESOME!!! I’m gonna vote for her twice!

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/312 "2016-09-12T17:36:32Z")

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> [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](#):
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> I’m sort of on the fence about this theory,

I pray that the EMTs will exercise the utmost care when they cut you down. Skull injuries are no joke.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/313 "2016-09-12T17:39:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …walked off without so much as a word to the little girl…

At 23 seconds into the clip, she is clearly talking to the little girl. Then she is talking to someone off camera, presumably a parental unit, and poses for a photo. I’m guessing at the behest of said parental unit. You were right about two things, one is Hillary, the other, a little girl.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/314 "2016-09-12T17:39:32Z")

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Most people have no problems with Tim Kaine. If there’s anything wrong at all with Clinton’s health, people should still be happy to vote for her because hey! We get Tim Kaine now, the guy who nobody hates!

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/315 "2016-09-12T17:43:35Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Is this a whoosh? You maybe would’ve preferred she’d hugged the kid tight and gone for a kiss square on the lips while gasping out _“pneumonia”_ over and over?

How on earth do you manage to extrapolate all that. I merely pointed out that contrary to what **PCP** said, Clinton didn’t actually hug the girl. This doesn’t mean I think she should have. What ticked me off was the obvious photo op-iness of the encounter and her rudely walking away from the little girl afterward without so much as a word. It was pretty much “Come here, turn this way, smile, get lost”.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/316 "2016-09-12T17:46:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> At 23 seconds into the clip, she is clearly talking to the little girl. Then she is talking to someone off camera, presumably a parental unit, and poses for a photo. I’m guessing at the behest of said parental unit. You were right about two things, one is Hillary, the other, a little girl.

I didn’t say Clinton never spoke to the little girl. I said that after posing the her for a photo she walked off without so much as a word to her, which is precisely what happened as I elucidated just above.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/317 "2016-09-12T17:47:31Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> How on earth do you manage to extrapolate all that. I merely pointed out that contrary to what **PCP** said, Clinton didn’t actually hug the girl. This doesn’t mean I think she should have. What ticked me off was the obvious photo op-iness of the encounter and her rudely walking away from the little girl afterward without so much as a word. It was pretty much “Come here, turn this way, smile, get lost”.

Still probably a robot girl, but just be thankful she didn’t swallow up the girl with her lizard tongue.

And, for god’s sake, don’t give in to temptation to not interpret a tiny video snippet in the worst possible light for a candidate you hate. It can never be the case that these are actual people sometimes doing what people do and being a tad awkward or something – it’s always either calculated evil or total incompetence.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/318 "2016-09-12T17:47:54Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> How on earth do you manage to extrapolate all that. I merely pointed out that contrary to what **PCP** said, Clinton didn’t actually hug the girl. This doesn’t mean I think she should have. What ticked me off was the obvious photo op-iness of the encounter and her rudely walking away from the little girl afterward without so much as a word. It was pretty much “Come here, turn this way, smile, get lost”.

Would you prefer she sat down for a coloring session on the sidewalk with her? You don’t think this family was waiting outside to see Hillary, the little girl or her parental unit made an indication that they’d like a picture, Hillary beckons her over, the little girl runs to her, gets nervous, they snap a picture, and everyone goes about their way?  
This was most likely a photo op for her parents. How dare her parents want their little girl to get a pic with the first woman to be a major-party nominee!

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/319 "2016-09-12T17:49:54Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> And then of course there is the fact that even if Clinton was vegetative in a coma, she’d still beat Trump.

Her polls would probably improve.

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> In fact you could make an argument that Kaine would beat Trump by a higher margin than Clinton since he has lower unfavorables than Clinton.

The guy who plays Tyrion Lannister on Game of Thrones could beat Trump right now.

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/320 "2016-09-12T17:54:15Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> That’s 'cause the little “girl” was a robot, probably manufactured by various wealthy Clinton Foundation donors. You can tell because humans don’t want to hug Hillary Clinton – certainly not human little girls. Hillary Clinton (the indestructible lizard version, anyway) reeks of sulfur from the depths of hell.
> 
> It’s certainly not the case that Hillary Clinton is a human person and some other human people, including some human little girls, might actually like and be inspired by her. That would be ridiculous!

This is funny 🙂

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