# Hillary just lost the election.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 11, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663 "2016-09-11T16:04:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/501 "2016-09-13T16:19:39Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Jeez, give her some privacy, will ya? It’s obviously her vibrator and her stumble was obviously an orgasm.

We’ll have to analyze the audio to see if there’s the clangy tinkle of a ben-wa ball hitting the ground.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/502 "2016-09-13T16:25:54Z")

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Whatever it is, it doesn’t originate inside her pants leg. It starts out already outside of her pants leg and several inches above the cuff line.

It looks to me like the woman second from her left kicked something up off the sidewalk. You can hear the woman’s foot scrape the ground and the direction her foot is moving coincides exactly with the timing and trajectory of the object.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/503 "2016-09-13T16:27:09Z")

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> [@Richard\_Parker](#):
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> I’ve seen the video. You see what you want to see. If you zoom 10x on any iPhone video, you can see all kinds of artifacts. Maybe something fell out, maybe it is nothing. Maybe it was metal. Maybe it wasn’t. The only reason you care or even know of the video is Alex Jones.

Where on your hierarchy of boogedymen does Alex Jones fall? I have lampooned his followers before, whereas your grasping of straws coincides nicely with Hillary’s fatwa against the clownish YouTube star.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/504 "2016-09-13T16:28:06Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> There’s been discussion that the lady with Clinton was either a nurse or doctor.  
> /QUOTE]
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> And? She’s 69 and on an exhausting campaign trail that would tire much younger peoplel. I’d fully expect there to be a doctor or a nurse in her entourage. You’re delusional if you think Trump doesn’t also have a doctor or nurse as part of his entourage as well.

Her 9/11 appearance wasn’t a scheduled public event. She was there simply to pay respect and honor the fallen. I wouldn’t expect the entire entourage to be with her.

Trump was there too and did the same thing. He’s a lifelong New Yorker and paid his respects. There was no press coverage of his appearance.

Hillary’s health crisis dominated the days news coverage. Which was very unfortunate and not what anybody wanted. 9/11 isn’t a day for politics.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/505 "2016-09-13T16:29:47Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> Seriously, it’s like watching a replay in a football game to see whether or not the punter’s helmet is regulation, all the while everyone’s ignoring the opposing team’s horse-collar tackle, chop blocks and the fact that their inside linebacker-- the one with “White Power Bill” tattoed on his neck-- just took a shit on the referee’s face.

So you’re saying this election is just like Super Bowl XL?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/506 "2016-09-13T16:51:06Z")

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> [@Crazyhorse](#):
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> Whatever it is, it doesn’t originate inside her pants leg. It starts out already outside of her pants leg and several inches above the cuff line.
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> It looks to me like the woman second from her left kicked something up off the sidewalk. You can hear the woman’s foot scrape the ground and the direction her foot is moving coincides exactly with the timing and trajectory of the object.

Have suggested in the other thread its one of those “pop-top” pieces of metal trash that are literally everywhere. You know, that thing you pull off a can of pop…

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/507 "2016-09-13T16:58:36Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Have suggested in the other thread its one of those “pop-top” pieces of metal trash that are literally everywhere. You know, that thing you pull off a can of pop…

Yeah now that you mention it the sound I described of her foot scraping the ground includes what could easily be the metallic twang of a pop-top or somesuch that was already under her foot. She slides her foot dramatically to the right while moving quickly to support Clinton and the thing flies right into Clinton’s leg with the identical direction and velocity of her foot.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/508 "2016-09-13T16:58:53Z")

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While I don’t want this to be misconstrued as an endorsement for Trump, the bizarre head bobbing, falls, concussion, freezes, and the “You’ve got to try the iced chai” episode seems like maybe more than pneumonia.

She may be fine for all I know, and I hope she is, but I do wonder sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/509 "2016-09-13T17:00:36Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Tyrion is probably the most popular character on the show. I’m not sure what your point is…

I just really like the show and try to work them into every conversation. I try to mention Tyrion Lannister (and now Lyanna Mormont) every chance I get.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/510 "2016-09-13T17:05:46Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> But, oh! Heavens to murgatroyd! Let’s focus our efforts on figuring out if something fell out of Hillary’s pants! Or whether or not she was being helped or carried!

So how much more or less does this discussion bother you compared to the ample speculation of “what was that thing on Cruz’s lip?”

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/511 "2016-09-13T17:06:43Z")

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Someday I sincerely hope the Republican party wakes up to the fact that they’ve spent the last 25 years desperately trying to manufacture scandals while completely botching the business of government.

We elect these people to run the country, not masturbate to phony scandals.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/512 "2016-09-13T17:13:10Z")

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Haven’t pop-tops been banned for the last decade or so?

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/513 "2016-09-13T17:16:48Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Someday I sincerely hope the Republican party wakes up to the fact that they’ve spent the last 25 years desperately trying to manufacture scandals while completely botching the business of government.
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> We elect these people to run the country, not masturbate to phony scandals.

Meanwhile, [on Hillary Clinton’s website.](https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/) Say what you will about the Republicans, at least when they try to push a scandal, it’s nothing as flat-out insane as trying to pretend Pepe the Frog is a white supremacist dog whistle.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/514 "2016-09-13T17:21:15Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Haven’t pop-tops been banned for the last decade or so?

Pull tabs are no more, as far as I know. Pop-tops can still be bent back and forth until they break off the can.

But it could be any lightweight metallic object that was on the sidewalk or the bottom of someone’s shoe. It could be a cufflink, coat button, earring… who knows.

I’m just saying it appears to have been kicked into her leg by the woman to her left and didn’t originate inside her pants.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/515 "2016-09-13T17:21:37Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Meanwhile, [on Hillary Clinton’s website.](https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/) Say what you will about the Republicans, at least when they try to push a scandal, it’s nothing as flat-out insane as trying to pretend Pepe the Frog is a white supremacist dog whistle.

I know – it’s just a frog. Like “HH” is just two letters, and the 14 words are just a phrase, and the swastika is just a cross with perpendicular extensions on the tips.

It’s not like humans sometimes use images to represent certain philosophies. That would be ridiculous!

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/516 "2016-09-13T17:40:48Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> Meanwhile, [on Hillary Clinton’s website.](https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/) Say what you will about the Republicans, at least when they try to push a scandal, it’s nothing as flat-out insane as trying to pretend Pepe the Frog is a white supremacist dog whistle.

It’s not exactly a dog whistle. Some white supremacists have actively tried to make it a nazi symbol. I posted the dailybeast article a couple of days ago that the Clinton page references.  
[How Pepe the Frog Became a Nazi Trump Supporter and Alt-Right Symbol](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/26/how-pepe-the-frog-became-a-nazi-trump-supporter-and-alt-right-symbol.html)

It’s from last May so it can’t be seen as a reaction to the “deplorables” dust up.

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**Author:** ![coremelt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@coremelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coremelt)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/517 "2016-09-13T17:44:15Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> , it’s nothing as flat-out insane as trying to pretend Pepe the Frog is a white supremacist dog whistle.

Go read 4Chan and Reddit /r/The\_Donald. Pepe represents redpill toxic masculinity, white supremacy, homophobia and xenophobia. All of these things are rampant on 4chan and The Donald, and “pepe” is their mascot, so yeah by association Pepe is representative of those ideals.

Yeah they can turn around and say they are only “shitposting” statements supporting those ideals for the LOLZ. Well really fuck you and your lolz, if you post enough comments supporting those ideals then don’t complain when people actually think thats what you believe.

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**Author:** ![Jennshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Jennshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jennshark)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/518 "2016-09-13T18:02:20Z")

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It has been really, really hot and humid on the East Coast (today is much nicer). I guarantee that if I had been exhausted, battling pneumonia, and standing in a biz suit out in the sun I would have been doorknob-level dead (and I’m 49).

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**Author:** ![Atomic\_Alex](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atomic_alex/32/175_2.png) [@Atomic\_Alex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atomic_Alex)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/519 "2016-09-13T18:28:08Z")

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> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#):
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> While I don’t want this to be misconstrued as an endorsement for Trump, the bizarre head bobbing, falls, concussion, freezes, and the “You’ve got to try the iced chai” episode seems like maybe more than pneumonia.
> 
> She may be fine for all I know, and I hope she is, but I do wonder sometimes.

Through curiosity I did a search for the Clinton health concerns videos, the freezing in the middle of a public speech and hurried reaction from her entourage in particular does seem like the symptom of epilepsy or seizures.

I would link to one of the videos but I’m not sure if that would be frowned upon.

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**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/520 "2016-09-13T18:30:45Z")

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> [@Jennshark](#):
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> It has been really, really hot and humid on the East Coast (today is much nicer). I guarantee that if I had been exhausted, battling pneumonia, and standing in a biz suit out in the sun I would have been doorknob-level dead (and I’m 49).

Hillary apologists appear to be profoundly physically weak as I’ve read numerous personal anecdotes about how they passed out under the most mild conditions. Perhaps, employers should refrain from hiring them in certain jobs where consciousness is required. 😛

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