# Hillary just lost the election.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 11, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663 "2016-09-11T16:04:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/561 "2016-09-13T22:49:56Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> …In addition, she’s blacked out, fallen, cracked her head and got a concussion requiring six months of hard work to recover from…

Is this one incident, or four?

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/562 "2016-09-13T22:55:02Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> _ **Mental** _ health problems are the issue here.

Meh. People like you think anyone who vehemently disagrees with them is crazy. Those who merely disagree are either stupid or mean. Or both. But crazy is reserved for those who are strongest in their opposition to you, and often the most effective in doing so.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/563 "2016-09-13T22:58:55Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Meh. People like you think anyone who vehemently disagrees with them is crazy. Those who merely disagree are either stupid or mean. Or both. But crazy is reserved for those who are strongest in their opposition to you, and often the most effective in doing so.

So, just out of curiosity: do you think the following statement demonstrates good mental health?

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> When Iran, when they circle our beautiful destroyers with their little boats, and they make gestures at our people that they shouldn’t be allowed to make, they will be shot out of the water.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/564 "2016-09-13T23:06:03Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Now here is a sentence from one of Trump’s speech’s where they attempt to diagram it linguistically:  
> [Donald Trump: This run-on sentence from a speech in Sun City, South Carolina, is in desperate need of diagramming.](http://www.slate.com/blogs/lexicon_valley/2015/07/31/donald_trump_this_run_on_sentence_from_a_speech_in_sun_city_south_carolina.html)
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> Trump’s speech is a symptom of early onset Alzheimer’s (which his father had) and that is certainly a bigger issue than collapsing from heat / pneumonia .

Alzheimer’s? You recall the president who had Alzheimer’s, right? You seem to be suggesting we ought to vote for Orangetan because he _will be like Reagan_.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/565 "2016-09-13T23:19:34Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> So, just out of curiosity: do you think the following statement demonstrates good mental health?

Since the guy’s saying it solely to get elected and is damn close to doing just that, sure, why not?

If Trump said this to his wife while they’re eating breakfast that’d be nuts. What he says as political speech isn’t supposed to be logical. He is saying what he says quite intentionally; it’s not meant to be logical, it’s meant to be emotional. The statement about shooting up Iranian ships presents an image of strength and vengeance.

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**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/566 "2016-09-13T23:31:37Z")

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> [@coremelt](#):
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> Trump’s speech is a symptom of early onset Alzheimer’s (which his father had) and that is certainly a bigger issue than collapsing from heat / pneumonia .

I think you mean early stage Alzheimer’s. [Early-onset Alzheimer’s](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early-onset_Alzheimer%27s_disease) is diagnosed before age 65 and Trump is 70 now. And FWIW, I don’t yet see the memory loss problems one would associate with Alzheimer’s. I think he’s just never really been all that smart (though he’s proficient at salesmanship, bullying, and a complete lack of ethics) and age isn’t making it any better.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/567 "2016-09-13T23:57:06Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Really? Catatonia? Epilepsy? Body doubles? Metal parts falling off her? That’s what passes as “bringing up her health”? She had fucking pneumonia. It was in all the papers. Her health has already been brought up. All this bullshit is, well, just bullshit.
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> And, you see, that was my point, not that I really think Trump has elephantiasis of the nuts.

You forgot the bullshit of “overheating”. That excuse came from the Clinton camp directly not a surrogate or ill-informed youtuber.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/568 "2016-09-14T02:29:38Z")

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Overheating is a bullshit excuse? Maybe to someone who stays indoors all of the time.

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**Author:** ![GulfTiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@GulfTiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GulfTiger)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/569 "2016-09-14T02:55:37Z")

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[She was just playing around](http://i.imgur.com/EO4564d.gif)

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**Author:** ![Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pearl\_Clutching\_Provocateur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pearl_Clutching_Provocateur)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/570 "2016-09-14T02:59:33Z")

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> [@GulfTiger](#):
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> [She was just playing around](http://i.imgur.com/EO4564d.gif)

Excellent. This shows Hillary looking quite spry. I’m glad she’s doing well.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/571 "2016-09-14T03:01:05Z")

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I don’t know which to laugh at harder, “overheating” or THERE ARE METAL PARTS FALLING OFF HER!!! They’re like practically the same.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/572 "2016-09-14T03:11:29Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> I don’t know which to laugh at harder, “overheating” or THERE ARE METAL PARTS FALLING OFF HER!!! They’re like practically the same.

I’ve heard the conspiracy theories about HRC’s untimely death and body doubles, but somehow I missed the one about metal parts. Can someone please explain?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/573 "2016-09-14T03:46:25Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I’ve heard the conspiracy theories about HRC’s untimely death and body doubles, but somehow I missed the one about metal parts. Can someone please explain?

Some folks (read: Alex Jones, etc.) point to something that can be seen bouncing off the back of HRC’s leg as she is hustled into the van on Sunday. Supposedly a metal object because of the sound it makes when it hits the sidewalk. [Here is the frame by frame analysis by Abraham Zapruder’s grandson.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzZl9j580tM)

Sorry, I’m making up the Zapruder part. Joking!

So apparently, she has been replaced by a robot body double and one of the metal parts fell off. Or all the people obsessing about this are batshit insane. I’m pretty sure it’s one or the other.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/574 "2016-09-14T07:39:46Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> Overheating is a bullshit excuse? Maybe to someone who stays indoors all of the time.

To someone who goes out in 100 degree weather, 80 degrees and 40% humidity is _nothing_.

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/575 "2016-09-14T08:28:45Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> To someone who goes out in 100 degree weather, 80 degrees and 40% humidity is _nothing_.

And therefore, heatstroke is not a real thing and it’s all just bullshit to distract from the robot malfunction?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/576 "2016-09-14T09:02:41Z")

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It happened to me once when it was no hotter than 65. I was way overdressed (it was in the 40s when I got up), I hadn’t eaten or drank that day, and I had been standing still in the direct sun for about two hours. And I wasn’t even sick.

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**Author:** ![WillFarnaby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/willfarnaby/32/514_2.png) [@WillFarnaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WillFarnaby)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/577 "2016-09-14T09:34:54Z")

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> [@Fiveyearlurker](#):
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> I’ll speculate that at some point there will be an ACTUAL scandal that no one will believe because of how often we keep hearing “WOLF!”

The ACTUAL scandal is her instigation of and complicity in the mass murder of thousands, but her Weekend at Bernie’s routine is getting far more traction.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/578 "2016-09-14T09:58:18Z")

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> [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](#):
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> Some folks (read: Alex Jones, etc.) point to something that can be seen bouncing off the back of HRC’s leg as she is hustled into the van on Sunday. Supposedly a metal object because of the sound it makes when it hits the sidewalk. [Here is the frame by frame analysis by Abraham Zapruder’s grandson.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzZl9j580tM)
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> Sorry, I’m making up the Zapruder part. Joking!
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> So apparently, she has been replaced by a robot body double and one of the metal parts fell off. Or all the people obsessing about this are batshit insane. I’m pretty sure it’s one or the other.

Considering how close Jones and Trump are, this is one way I can definitely see him or his supporters overplaying their hand on the health issue. If they start really seriously publicly advancing body doubles or robots, a lot of voters will be turned off and start ignoring all of it. It’s happened before.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/579 "2016-09-14T10:34:55Z")

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> [@WillFarnaby](#):
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> The ACTUAL scandal is her instigation of and complicity in the mass murder of thousands, but her Weekend at Bernie’s routine is getting far more traction.

Oh? This I’d love to hear. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/580 "2016-09-14T10:48:53Z")

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Mass murder of thousands of pneumonia bacteria. Antibiotics are WMDs too, you know.

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