# Hillary just lost the election.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 11, 2016, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663 "2016-09-11T16:04:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/101 "2016-09-11T20:25:23Z")

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> [@Belowjob2.0](#):
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> I expect that specific medical information about her Parkinson’s will be leaked before the election.

Sure, leaked by Trump’s “doctor” who happens to “know” Hillary’s doctor.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/102 "2016-09-11T20:26:24Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> …the only people who are really sitting up and noticing are the ones who were already focused with laser-like precision on this election.

Feels more like being tied to the tracks and hearing the distant whistle of the train.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/103 "2016-09-11T20:26:54Z")

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Some of you people are being ridiculous with the melodrama. Her comments about Trump supporters are a bigger deal than this, and that was a very small deal to begin with.

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**Author:** ![MacTech](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c0e974/32.png) [@MacTech](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MacTech)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/104 "2016-09-11T20:28:20Z")

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> [@Sherrerd](#):
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> She should release full medical records—_and relentlessly call for Trump to release his_.
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> Trump has some serious issues that he’s getting a pass on explaining. For example, it’s been known for months that Trump compulsively returns to New York from any and all campaign stops and rallies so that he can sleep in his own bed. The many hours wasted on theses trips back and forth is obviously time that Trump’s campaign staff would like to see used more productively–but apparently Trump can’t sleep in any bed other than the one he’s used to. That is not normal.
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> Yet this isn’t being discussed, much. Back in January the topic came up in relation to Trump’s primary chances:
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> [http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKBN0UM17220160108](http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKBN0UM17220160108)
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> Of course he did win that primary, despite the weirdness of flying back and forth so much instead of campaigning. But the weirdness deserves scrutiny.
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> We need to see Trump’s full medical records. Clinton must release her own, then renew calls to see Trump’s.

Perhaps he can only sleep in the consecrated ground of his home(land), anyone know if his bed is coffin-shaped?

After all, if hilliarry is a zombie, why can’t trump be a vampire? 😉

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/105 "2016-09-11T20:30:54Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> … But taken together, the radical right wing - and I emphasize that plurality more than just Trump the man - is setting this all up to be a chaotic campaign crescendo. Moreover,…

This is my point. What you left out was Steve Bannon and his ability to summons evil deeds. So many people planning to vote for Hillary, me included, are voting for the lesser of two evils, not the candidate of their choosing. This is going to resonate between now and November, and it’s going to hurt her.

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**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/106 "2016-09-11T20:32:46Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> Are you withdrawing your unsubstantiated claim about Mamie’s involvement in Eisenhower’s presidency, or are you just going to pretend it never happened now that your claim has been shown to be completely without merit? I’m guessing the latter.

I had earlier stated what I was taught in high school history classes decades ago.

I’m certainly willing to read more current information and learn the real history. It’s not surprising that more historical research has been published. I’m always reading and learning about history. It’s a lifetime passion of mine.

Obviously Bill’s role in Hillary’s administration will be closely monitored. We’ve never had an ex President in a situation like this before.

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**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/107 "2016-09-11T20:39:10Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> My argument is that most people aren’t paying attention to this today. Your average American voter is often influenced by what they see in their facebook feeds or on TV.

Well, they aren’t going to interrupt a football game to announce this. But this video of HRC being carried to the car like a wobbly ragdoll is not going away. And once you see it, you can’t forget it. It does legitimize Hillary’s health into a real issue. It’s not a game changer but I think it could help Orange Bozo a bit.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/108 "2016-09-11T20:40:15Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> This is my point. What you left out was Steve Bannon and his ability to summons evil deeds. So many people planning to vote for Hillary, me included, are voting for the lesser of two evils, not the candidate of their choosing. **This is going to resonate between now and November, and it’s going to hurt her.**

Absolutely. Not to be too flippant about this but it would be a very bad idea for Clinton to look anything other than in prime physical condition from now until election day. I wouldn’t dare suggest this is the end of her chances at the Presidency. However, this probably marginally hurts her chances of victory, and another public “medical episode” of almost any sort could hurt her chances more seriously.

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**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/109 "2016-09-11T20:46:05Z")

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Clinton should just pull a Lance Armstrong and have and make use of an IV with EPO before each of her appearances.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/110 "2016-09-11T20:48:13Z")

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All this “it don’t matter” attitude of the Dems, remember it is hard to tell how Americans will view a candidates health. The Palin Pick hurt McCain because voters started taking about how old he was like he wouldn’t make it through one turn and he wasn’t even sick like Clinton. You may be right that no one cares but don’t be surprised if Americans are all “OMG she’s going to die.” Of course it may be “She’s going to die. Vote for Kaine!”

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/111 "2016-09-11T21:04:43Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I think Hillary will still win **and her fragile health could easily be a problem while in office**. She could still serve but perhaps not put in 14 hour days. Maybe voluntarily restrict herself to a 8 hour day.

(bolding mine)

“Her fragile health”? What do you know that the rest of us don’t know? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/112 "2016-09-11T21:06:45Z")

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> [@Belowjob2.0](#):
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> Everything we’ve seen WRT Hilary’s health issues is consistent with Parkinson’s disease. …

This makes about as much sense as “Everything we’ve seen WRT Hilary’s health issues is consistent with her being Supergirl all growed up.”

Nah. The Supergirl one fits better.

Seriously, did you just pick a random disease? Are you confused because some had noticed _Bill’s_ hand tremor and wondered about Parkinson Disease in relation to that (it isn’t).

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/113 "2016-09-11T21:13:25Z")

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I’m glad Hillary’s feeling better. Could someone help prop me up now? Legs are pretty shaky for some reason.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/114 "2016-09-11T21:27:55Z")

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Apparently she has pneumonia?

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/115 "2016-09-11T21:27:56Z")

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Watch military formations in any outdoor ceremony lasting more than an hour on any day above seventy-five degrees. You’ll see people start dropping like flies. Hundreds of rock-solid soldiers in perfect still formation, except hey look, that one, that one leaning, and leaninger, and splat! down they go.

And suddenly there’s a couple of MP’s - hey, I didn’t notice the MP’s back there - suddenly MP’s sprint in from the scenery and grab the limp, lifeless body and drag it off - easy there fellas! - and drag it off into the bushes.

Hopefully on this happened on grass, or they fainted backwards, or downwards with their knees buckling. A stiff-kneed forward faint onto concrete or asphalt? Ouch. It sounds like a bag of wet cement hitting the pavement. A lot louder than you would think, because nobody likes to imagine the human face making that kind of sound while hitting the ground. Lots of broken noses and wire-shut jaws and such.

And these are fit military men. Conservatives just creamed their pantaloons.

(This whole post was just a lead-in to get those last two sentences in their own paragraph.)

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/116 "2016-09-11T21:30:14Z")

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I love how so many people just \*know \*what’s going to happen next. Like, they just \*knew \*this was going to sink Trump, or that was going to _spell the end_ of Hillary’s chances. How about we just wait and see how this plays out instead of playing Nostradamus every time something new happens.

Could this actually hurt Hillary? Sure. Could this have zero effect on Election Day? Sure. Could the Lions finally go to the Super Bowl? No. Absolutely not. That I \*am \*absolutely fucking sure of.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/117 "2016-09-11T21:32:58Z")

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[Hillary was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-has-pneumonia-doctor-says-228012?cmpid=sf)

God help us, the American people will \*never \*elect a pneumoniac, especially a lady pneumoniac! Nevah!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/118 "2016-09-11T21:35:18Z")

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Nah, just come up with something wait for Trump to fuck it up. He will.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/119 "2016-09-11T21:40:15Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
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> [Hillary was diagnosed with pneumonia on Friday.](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-has-pneumonia-doctor-says-228012?cmpid=sf)
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> God help us, the American people will \*never \*elect a pneumoniac, especially a lady pneumoniac! Nevah!

Hillary Crawls Out of Sickbed to Attend 9/11 Memorial

is a headline we will never see. Despite the media being all liberal and suchlike.

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**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2016, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-just-lost-the-election/765663/120 "2016-09-11T21:41:01Z")

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> [@even\_sven](#):
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> I’ve suffered heat exhaustion. Went out for a short walk and forgot my water bottle, came to some time later face down in my front yard with little recollection of how I got there.

Im sorry but this is not normal.

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