Good Gawd, do you mean she’s actually changed in the last 50 years? Earth shattering finding Claverhouse, good work!
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I wasn’t the one who brought up what Alabaman policies were in 1965. Maybe they’ve changed in the last 50 years.
And Mrs. Clinton has changed her views many times in the last 50 years — mostly in response to whatever will get her votes. I may not admire Ron Paul or the Reverend Sharpton or Noah Chomsky, but they do manage to sustain a certain consistency.
A British Birth Certificate costs £9.25 ( and all other certificates such as marriage etc. ) and can be ordered online =
*Takes around 10 minutes
Debit or credit card required
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or by post, or by going to the register office where the birth was originally registered. A priority service is available for £23.40.
Voters are registered by a postcard sent to the house and filled in then returned — usually by just ticking off those living there, and returned.
Outside Northern Ireland “You do not need to show ID to vote in England, Scotland and Wales. You will need to tell polling staff your name and address. They will then cross your name off the list and give you a ballot paper.” Or you can vote by proxy, or vote by post.
However the same article points out: “The elections watchdog plans to introduce the need for photographic ID in time for the 2019 local government and European parliament elections.”
The other things remain the same.
However bearing in mind British people’s historic objection to ID Cards, which they try to bring in time after time, I’m doubtful they will reach that date for photo ID.
And I couldn’t afford £23…
Quietly, one hopes.
I don’t know-- the web sit didn’t explicitly say. One would assume that if the existing license has not expired, it suffices as ID. If it is expired, you go back to step one.
But this thread is almost entirely about Voter ID, and so it’s unclear that getting a voter ID is made more difficult by this change. Maybe we need a different thread to focus attention on the plight of the poor trying to DLs in AL?
And I’d encourage folks to look at the population density map I linked to, above. The “black belt” area of AL is pretty much the same as the “low population density belt” of the state. Now, maybe the lawmakers found that they could exercise their racist motives by hitting the sparsely populated ares, but it does offer an alternate view of the situation. If there is a federal investigation, we’ll see if this matters at all.
This argument about lack of internet access is a red herring, IMO. No one had internet access prior to the 1990s, yet the majority of us have birth certificates. Heck, I have relatives that were born in the 1930s, and they have them. The hospital I was born at is in such a sketchy neighborhood that it’s been deemed a Level One Trauma Center specifically to treat gunshot victims. I still have mine. Hanging on to your birth certificate does not require a Herculean effort.
And yet, that low density area already only had one office that’s now closed.
What was might have been a long trip is now even longer. Living in a low density area doesn’t mean you have no right to government services.
Maybe they should close one of the three in the high density areas that are close together.
Look at your pop. map. Lower part of the state, slightly to the right of the center, there’s a small red zone. It has three open offices in a tight cluster.
Do you dispute their research methods or their findings? Their abstract suggests that their methodology might underestimate the number of low-income families without documentation.
What percentage of Americans do you believe lack necessary documentation, and what evidence do you have to support your claims?
Did you dispute the “research methods or findings” of Rachel Maddow, cited in post #76? Why not?
Can you cite this number, and can you explain its applicability, since we’re really only interested in Americans at least 18 years old? I’m finding that very few people are born outside of hospitals now (and the majority are white kids, presumably part of the home-birth movement), but that almost half of the people born before 1940 were born outside of a hospital.
I’m having trouble tracking down a racial breakdown of that number, but it’s highly probable that black people, with less access to health care, were disproportionately born outside of a hospital setting. If someone else can find these numbers, it’d be interesting.
I don’t dispute them, because I haven’t investigated them. I’ll therefore make no claim about them at all, nor will I rely on them for any purpose, nor will I dispute claims based on them.
Now you.
Shouldn’t the low-density zone have MORE offices strewn around, to avoid their having to trek a million miles just to get the most basic paperwork ?
I watched the video. She was simply reporting on the closings and the backlash.
I heard nothing that sounded like her opinion alone.
Cite where she came to a conclusion based on her “research methods or findings”.
I agree, very few people are born outside of hospitals these days. As for people that were born before 1940, they are all aged 75+. The “problem”, if there is one, will self-correct in 10-15 years. It doesn’t justify the level of hand-wringing displayed in this thread.
I note that for people on minimum wage this is close to half a days salary. Half a day’s salary is a lot to me, ymmv.
Look at the North West corner of the both maps, and the mostly white, but low population density area gets hit hard. I’ll wait for an independent analysis that looks at this with some mathematic rigor. Right now, we’re all just eye-balling.
Do you consider Ms. Maddow to be a neutral reporter of facts?
Of course, the percentages didn’t change abruptly from 1940 to 1941; until the Civil Rights Act of 1965, there were segregated hospitals. What percentage of out-of-hospitals births do you consider significant?
Can you give us good reason not to trust her reportage of said facts?
Are you edging towards offering us a modest proposal?
Do you have evidence that segregated hospitals didn’t provide for birth certificates in the same manner as “white” hospitals?