# Hillary said we'd use nuclear arms against Iran in some circumstances... **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 22, 2008, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-said-wed-use-nuclear-arms-against-iran-in-some-circumstances/446345 "2008-04-22T01:50:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-said-wed-use-nuclear-arms-against-iran-in-some-circumstances/446345/41 "2008-04-22T21:34:38Z")
[QUOTE=mswas] Not that Israel will wait. I am sure there are Israeli nukes targetting every Iranian city and military target. [/QUOTE] Which is what I fundamenatally don’t understand about the question to begin with. Israel is fully capable of protecting itself so why do we have to do anything? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-said-wed-use-nuclear-arms-against-iran-in-some-circumstances/446345/42 "2008-04-22T21:39:45Z")
[QUOTE=Sitnam] Which is what I fundamenatally don’t understand about the question to begin with. Israel is fully capable of protecting itself so why do we have to do anything? [/QUOTE] Because part of the point is to make it so that neither Iran nor Israel act. ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [April 22, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-said-wed-use-nuclear-arms-against-iran-in-some-circumstances/446345/43 "2008-04-22T21:44:26Z")
[QUOTE=Sitnam] Which is what I fundamenatally don’t understand about the question to begin with. Israel is fully capable of protecting itself so why do we have to do anything? [/QUOTE] Domestic politics. Saying nasty bellicose things about uppity Muslim countries who get too ambitious in the region is a fairly risk-free way of trying to prove you’re more pro-Israel than the next guy, which is important for energizing portions of both the Dem. and Rep. electorate. Conversely, if asked a question that involves Israel or its perceived enemies, most candidates will find it safest to figure out what the most over-the-top response is, and then give it, lest they create an opportunity for an opponent to paint them as insufficiently zealous or to attract condemnation from the lobbying groups, who closely monitor the finest nuances of statements on these topics. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-said-wed-use-nuclear-arms-against-iran-in-some-circumstances/446345/44 "2008-04-23T00:14:20Z")
Compared to what Iranian politicians casually say, HRC’s statement is downright tepid. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-said-wed-use-nuclear-arms-against-iran-in-some-circumstances/446345/45 "2008-04-23T00:20:36Z")
First use of nuclear weapons has been American and NATO policy since Hillary Clinton was in first grade. Her reiteration of that stance is about as newsworthy as her saying that the sun rises in the East. ---
**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-said-wed-use-nuclear-arms-against-iran-in-some-circumstances/446345/46 "2008-04-23T02:23:20Z")
\>about as newsworthy as her saying that the sun rises in the East Dunno about that. Starting a thread by saying the sun rises in the east probably wouldn’t have gotten 43 replies, counting yours or not. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-said-wed-use-nuclear-arms-against-iran-in-some-circumstances/446345/47 "2008-04-23T03:20:09Z")
Besides, I understand the sun is very pro-nuke. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2008, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-said-wed-use-nuclear-arms-against-iran-in-some-circumstances/446345/48 "2008-04-23T03:23:25Z")
[QUOTE=Napier] Dunno about that. Starting a thread by saying the sun rises in the east probably wouldn’t have gotten 43 replies, counting yours or not. [/QUOTE] It would if many self identified liberals and conservatives had viewpoints on whether or not the sun _should_ rise in the east. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-said-wed-use-nuclear-arms-against-iran-in-some-circumstances/446345.md?page=2)