# HILLARY, the fat assed phony **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 13, 2000, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564 "2000-02-13T13:49:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![John\_Corrado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a88e4f/32.png) [@John\_Corrado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Corrado)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/61 "2000-02-16T00:34:00Z")
jwg: I agree with your sentiment, but I have to make fun of something you said: > [@](#): > > Deduct that Bill was fooling around on her? If Hillary was able to pay less taxes because of Bill’s affair, then by God, she **is** the smartest person I’ve ever met. And Ike- don’t assume what right-wingers think just because of the ravings of one lunatic. Otherwise, I’ll have to ask why you still call your home city Hymie-town. (grin) * * * JMCJ This is not a sig. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/62 "2000-02-16T00:43:00Z")
uke > [@](#): > > Y’know something? > Barbara Bush really DOES have a lard ass. > > But NO ONE, during the entire Bush Administration (1989-1993) came around talking about the First Lady’s big fat ass. > > So, what’s the story? Are right-wingers just THAT much nastier, less imaginative, and more anti-woman than left-wingers? What cave did you reside in? Hello? Everyone on the Left used to say that Barbara Bush’s picture was on a one dollar bill, which I thought was hysterical. ## You wanna a big ass, you have Hil lar yyyyyy, the rhino butt. Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa You can destroy your now by worrying about tomorrow. Janis Joplin ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/63 "2000-02-16T00:57:00Z")
jwg > [@](#): > > My second question is brief. What has she done? What has she accomplished? When she was first lady in Arkansas, working on education, did the scores improve? Was there a difference? All I hear is that she headed this committee, or started programs, or worked for that, or championed something else - but has anything she done actually improved because of her? Is there anything measureable? A list of jobs held is not a list of accomplishments. What has she done? While she was “First Lady” in Arkansa, Bill was having a **12 year affair with Jennifer Flowers** and reading the scores in the schools went down. Yeah, Hillary, buffalo butt is realllllll smart. Duh The size of her ass has nothing to do with, and is actually inverse, to the size of her brain. * * * You can destroy your now by worrying about tomorrow. Janis Joplin ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/64 "2000-02-16T01:00:00Z")
yeah, she really was reading the scores in the school as they went down. Should be, the reading scores in the schools went down. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/65 "2000-02-16T01:07:00Z")
I hadn’t realized you were an Arkansas graduate, John. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/66 "2000-02-16T01:10:00Z")
Dive > [@](#): > > I wouldn’t exactly call John John right wing. He spent 8 pages or so in the “6 billion” thread espousing a pretty radical environmental agenda and theories of how to curtail population growth. Al Gore, the Sierra Club, Greenpeace, Planned Parenthood International, and ZPG probably know him on a first name basis. You’re very perceptive, Dive, I’m against big business when they damage the environment, to the point that I would close their ass down til they made right what they screwed up. A snaildarter is more important to me than a new car factory. Wish we could go back to the horse, but keep the PC’s. * * * You can destroy your now by worrying about tomorrow. Janis Joplin ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/67 "2000-02-16T01:13:00Z")
Yep, tom, graduated summa cum lousy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/68 "2000-02-16T01:35:00Z")
\*\*Hillary Deserves an ‘F’ in Education;Hillary (and Bill) Did Nothing to Improve Arkansas Schools \*\* An op-ed written by New York Senate candidate Hillary Lardass Clinton on her “education record”, belongs in a high school library – **in the fiction section.** In today’s Daily News, Hillary argues that she has the experience to improve New York schools because she ‘chaired a committee to improve education in Arkansas.’ What she neglects to mention is that she deserves an ‘F’ for her school work in Arkansas. According to one recent book: “(F)rom 1984 to 1992, education spending in Arkansas more than doubled and the state had little to show for it.(1)” A Wall Street Journal article points out that despite her efforts in Arkansas, “the 1992 ACT (American College) test scores (were) exactly the same as they were in 1972.” What a phony. AND SHE’S GOT AN ASS TO MATCH. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA * * * You can destroy your now by worrying about tomorrow. Janis Joplin ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/69 "2000-02-16T03:59:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by jwg: > She went to Yale Law School! How many thousands of women/men/people did that as well? I won’t comment on the general issue, but let me note that the percentage of the Yale Law School students that were female was much smaller when she entered in 1967 than it is now. It may have only been about 5%. And for what it’s worth, she graduated first in her class there. ---
**Author:** ![Wendell\_Wagner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8491ac/32.png) [@Wendell\_Wagner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wendell_Wagner)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/70 "2000-02-16T04:43:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by John John: > A Wall Street Journal article points out that despite her efforts in Arkansas, “the 1992 ACT (American College) test scores (were) exactly the same as they were in 1972.” > > What a phony. AND SHE’S GOT AN ASS TO MATCH. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Guess what, John John, the Wall Street Journal is hardly an unbiased source. (Do you regularly read their editorials? Then you should know that editorially they’re pretty conservative and hardly likely to favor Hillary Clinton.) It appears that the ACT scores nationwide were about the same in 1992 as in 1972. I can’t find a table giving the trend in ACT scores, but I know that the trend in SAT scores was a decline from about 1960 to about 1980 and then an increase from 1980 till the present. I think the same is true for ACT scores. Giving the scores in Arkansas from 1972 to 1992 as if that were some measure of Hillary Clinton’s powers is deceptive in two ways. First, as I said, you want to look at the trend in Arkansas as compared to the trend nationwide, not the trend in Arkansas by itself. Second, why would someone use the scores from 1972 to 1992? What did Hillary Clinton have to do with the change in the scores from long before Bill Clinton became governor and she became involved with education there? She didn’t even move to Arkansas till 1975. The Wall Street Journal was being deliberatively deceptive in using 1972 as the first year of this comparison. A more appropriate year to use would be 1980, when Hillary Clinton became involved with education in Arkansas. The ACT scores did rise from 1980 to 1992. Incidentally, Arkansas doesn’t have the lowest ACT scores in the country. Check out this URL: [http://www.act.org/news/data/99/99states.html](http://www.act.org/news/data/99/99states.html) Alabama, D.C., Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, and West Virginia all have lower average scores, while Texas has the same average score as Arkansas. Once again, do you actually believe that the size of someone’s ass has anything to do with whether they should be elected? Do you actually believe that Hillary Clinton’s ass is large? I still want to know if you are stupid, insane, or merely willing to lie about anything to make a point in an argument. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/71 "2000-02-16T05:02:00Z")
**W W** , you forgot “d) all of the above.” ---
**Author:** ![WallyM7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b5e925/32.png) [@WallyM7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WallyM7)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/72 "2000-02-16T06:52:00Z")
Wendell, I’m going to go with insane. With a boatful of stupidity thrown in. * * * ---
**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/73 "2000-02-16T10:44:00Z")
Wendell, I’ll go with “stupid” and “willing to lie about anything to make a point in an argument”. I don’t see any compelling evidence for “insane”, but I think it was an oversight on your part to leave out “ignorant”. ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/74 "2000-02-16T12:15:00Z")
* * * TomH > [@](#): > > Wendell, I’ll go with “stupid” and “willing to lie about anything to make a point in an argument”. I don’t see any compelling evidence for “insane”, but I think it was an oversight on your part to leave out “ignorant”. TomH boyo, this sounds like self analysis. Poor lad. Now, talk about asses, NO ONE COULD BEAT BUTCHER THATCHER’s KERNSEY RUMP. Moo I think I’ll give thanks each day that you reside in Gin Alley, London and are not part of our election process. Red Coat! ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/75 "2000-02-16T12:31:00Z")
Wendell > [@](#): > > Second, why would someone use the scores from 1972 to 1992? What did Hillary Clinton have to do with the change in the scores from long before Bill Clinton became governor and she became involved with education there? Wendell? Oh, Wendell? Helloooooo? Anybody home? Hillary, ox rear, boasted how she was going to boost scores FROM WHAT THEY HAD BEEN. She did NOT. She has NO public accomplishemnts to her credit. She is a self absorbed sow. Wendell, what is it about her bovine ass that you delight in? Do you have any idea what her Charmin bill is for one month? It exceeds the GDP of most countries. This country will never get out of debt if we have to keep funding her toilet tissue bill. Hillary, tissue? I hardly know you. * * * You can destroy your now by worrying about tomorrow. Janis Joplin ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/76 "2000-02-16T12:33:00Z")
tomndebb > [@](#): > > W W, you forgot “d) all of the above.” This is not like you, Thomas. * * * You can destroy your now by worrying about tomorrow. Janis Joplin ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/77 "2000-02-16T12:49:00Z")
Why some Democrats are funding Giulani, and many are not even from NY. A random telephone sampling of some donors: ``I detest her’’ said Gerald Armstrong of Eagan, Minn., who gave $500. ``She’s a pathological liar,’’ said James Cunningham, of Shreveport, La., a $50 donor. ``We think Hillary Clinton is a sleazeball,’’ said Patricia Johnson, of North Falmouth, Mass., whose husband donated $250. ``I just hate Hillary, plain and simple,’’ said Louis Kreditor of Dallas, who contributed $100. \*\*`the darling of the radical left-wing elite,’ among other things. \*\* Such mailings have been wildly successful. The mayor’s aides estimate 40 percent of the $11.5 million he has raised has come from his direct-mail drives. Many donors are from outside New York. The Giuliani campaign said 90,000 donors gave an average of $110; 63 percent gave $100 or less. Mrs. Clinton also has raised much of her $8 million from outside **her newly adopted home state,** but she has so far received larger donations from fewer donors. * * * You can destroy your now by worrying about tomorrow. Janis Joplin ---
**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/78 "2000-02-16T13:03:00Z")
> [@](#): > > NO ONE COULD BEAT BUTCHER THATCHER’s KERNSEY RUMP. Moo John John, Are women to be judged on _anything_ other than the size of their arses? > [@](#): > > you reside in Gin Alley, London It’s Gin _Lane_. As I said, you’re ignorant. And I think that Beer Street is more appropriate in my case 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_John](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8797f3/32.png) [@John\_John](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_John)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/79 "2000-02-16T13:18:00Z")
## quote:me ## NO ONE COULD BEAT BUTCHER THATCHER’s KERNSEY RUMP. Moo TomH > [@](#): > > John John, Are women to be judged on anything other than the size of their arses? ## Seems like a very accurate measure for the Rump Mistress quote:me ## you reside in Gin Alley, London tomH > [@](#): > > It’s Gin Lane. As I said, you’re ignorant. And I think that Beer Street is more appropriate in my case 🙂 Warm beer is NOT beer, it’s swill. Hey, Tom, this Bud fer you. ohhhhh Britania no longer rides the wave. I have not forgiven you Red Coats for buring the White House and Library of Congress, not to mention the “press gangs” AMERICANS, fellow countrymen, AVENGE 1812! * * * You can destroy your now by worrying about tomorrow. Janis Joplin ---
**Author:** ![TomH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/90db22/32.png) [@TomH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TomH)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2000, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564/80 "2000-02-16T13:30:00Z")
Correction: Wendell, after that last post, I will go with “insane” as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-the-fat-assed-phony/4564.md?page=5)