# Hillary to raise 2.5 billion dollars. **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [April 18, 2015, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962 "2015-04-18T03:24:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962/41 "2015-04-20T00:14:15Z")
> [@DeptfordX](#): > > Damn people, no offence meant, but your political system is _messed up_. 18 month elections, billions of dollars spent, it beggars belief. Spending 2.5 billion creates jobs. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962/42 "2015-04-20T00:52:30Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Spending 2.5 billion creates jobs. 🙂 It is a life saver for many old media groups every 2 years. Or I should say, it is a regular gravy train for the same. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962/43 "2015-04-20T03:08:10Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > Since this is not the Koch brothers, it doesn’t count. Yes, at [$889 million](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us/politics/kochs-plan-to-spend-900-million-on-2016-campaign.html) _by themselves_, the boys count. But yes both sides expect to spend possibly $2.5 billion. Expected totals both sides together likely over $5 billion … previous Democratic [“private” sources](http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/230318-the-5-billion-campaign) had predicted > [@](#): > > that the campaign totals on their end alone might surpass $1.5 billion and go as high as $2 billion 1.5 2.5 … guesswork now really other than that it is a big number. Not to worry though - > [@](#): > > Republicans say they aren’t worried about matching Clinton, with one GOP strategist who works at a super-PAC saying his party’s candidates will match “dollar for dollar” whatever Clinton and Democrats raise. Or more. Unless they conclude early on it is a losing cause. Then they divert more to Congressional races and cede the Presidential one. **Fear Itself** you know what it is about. You cannot win without lots of money but accepting large donations is a potential wedge with the more progressive wing. So it is hoped anyway. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962/44 "2015-04-20T12:48:34Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > The best hope you have of bring sanity to this is if two old guys die? Absolutely. The best thing that could possibly happen in the US, other than not electing a Republican in 2016, is that Roberts, Alito, Scalia, and Thomas all resign or die before a Republican got to choose a successor. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962/45 "2015-04-20T13:55:54Z")
Roberts, Alito, and Thomas on the R side, and Kagan and Sotomayor on the D side, are all young by SCOTUS standards. If Hillary serves two terms, chances are they’ll all still be on the Court when she leaves office. Here are their birth years: 1933 - Ginsburg 1936 - Scalia 1936 - Kennedy 1938 - Breyer 1948 - Thomas 1950 - Alito 1954 - Sotomayor 1955 - Roberts 1960 - Kagan That 10-year gap between Breyer and Thomas is gonna be interesting. Assuming a 2-term Clinton Presidency, she could get to name 4 Justices to the Supreme Court, and her successor might not get to pick any, even if her successor serves 2 terms as sell. But this shows why it’s so important to get Hillary elected, assuming she’s the nominee. She could lock in a center-left majority on the Supreme Court for a long time. But if a Republican wins and Scalia and Kennedy chose that opportunity to retire, that could lock in a 5-4 activist conservative majority on the Court for a good long while. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962/46 "2015-04-20T14:06:26Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I think most people will concede that Hillary Clinton is not their dream candidate. They’ll be voting for her as the lesser of two evils. > > Republicans need to stop telling people why they shouldn’t vote for a Democrat and start giving reasons why they should vote for a Republican. They can’t, because there ARE no reasons to vote for a Republican. You know, except perhaps, for hating America. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962/47 "2015-04-20T16:12:39Z")
> [@ITR\_champion](#): > > Hillary to raise 2.5 billion dollars. > > Nestled in [this](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/13/us/politics/hillary-clinton-2016-presidential-campaign.html?_r=0) New York Times article about the launch of Hillary’s campaign is this nugget of information: “Mrs. Clinton’s supporters and outside super PACs [are] looking to raise as much as $2.5 billion”. Hmmm, sounds like a fair amount of money. (post shortened) Ol’ Hillary, and her mega-bucks supporters and PACs, can claim that they will raise 2.5 billion dollars to insure Ol’ Hillary’s election. AFAIK, that does not mean that Ol’ Hillary’s campaign will actually be able to raise 2.5 billion dollars. The 2.5 billion claim alone should encourage those who oppose Ol’ Hillary’s to boost their donations to other candidates. ---
**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962/48 "2015-04-20T16:17:09Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > They can’t, because there ARE no reasons to vote for a Republican. > > You know, except perhaps, for hating America. That’s what Democrats claim, and yet, the House and Senate are now under Republican, and Tea Party, members control. I guess the Democrat Party candidates didn’t convince the voters that they were the best politicians for the job. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962/49 "2015-04-20T17:51:19Z")
Hillary is so hypocritical! This has convinced me to vote Republican. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillary-to-raise-2-5-billion-dollars/717962.md?page=2)