# Hillary's coattails suck.  Only Trump's are worse.  Who would have been better?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 26, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-coattails-suck-only-trumps-are-worse-who-would-have-been-better/769774 "2016-10-26T14:54:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2016, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-coattails-suck-only-trumps-are-worse-who-would-have-been-better/769774/81 "2016-10-31T15:45:00Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Clinton was an incredible political talent?
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> You know how he won the 1992 election, right?
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> Bush had 90+% approval ratings. A lot of guys didn’t run (Cuomo probably regretted not running in '92) and Clinton outran Jerry Brown.
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> Clinton was running against a recession (“It’s the economy, stupid”) and a party that probably suffered because Perot ran.
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> Since WWII the Democrats elected FDR, Truman, JFK, LBJ, Carter, Clinton and Obama. In that lineup, where do you put Clinton and Obama?

In terms of political talent, I’d say FDR and JFK also qualify as “once in a generation political talents”, along with Obama and Bill Clinton. And if a generation is about 20 years, then the math works out pretty well.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-coattails-suck-only-trumps-are-worse-who-would-have-been-better/769774/82 "2016-11-01T15:52:27Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> In terms of political talent, I’d say FDR and JFK also qualify as “once in a generation political talents”, along with Obama and Bill Clinton. And if a generation is about 20 years, then the math works out pretty well.

No love for LBJ?

So MOST of our Democratic Presidents have been unique political talents. Sounds like our current nominee isn’t really on the right hand side of the curve as far as presidents are concerned.

Who knows. I hope I am wrong and Hillary turns out to be everything that my facebook friends hope she will be but her history does not point in hat direction.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 1, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-coattails-suck-only-trumps-are-worse-who-would-have-been-better/769774/83 "2016-11-01T16:22:31Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> No love for LBJ?

He was solid, but not once-in-a-generation, or he would have run and won in 1968.

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> So MOST of our Democratic Presidents have been unique political talents. Sounds like our current nominee isn’t really on the right hand side of the curve as far as presidents are concerned.
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> Who knows. I hope I am wrong and Hillary turns out to be everything that my facebook friends hope she will be but her history does not point in hat direction.

We’ll see. She’ll probably win.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-coattails-suck-only-trumps-are-worse-who-would-have-been-better/769774/84 "2016-11-09T04:13:39Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> He was solid, but not once-in-a-generation, or he would have run and won in 1968.
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> We’ll see. She’ll probably win.

Everyone STILL happy with the Democratic nominee?

Noone thinks that we would have done better with someone else?

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