# Hillary's jacket **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 24, 2014, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862 "2014-04-24T13:34:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/1 "2014-04-24T13:34:29Z")
[This news article](http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-hillary-clinton-at-uconn-0424-20140423,0,1540507.story) floated through my feed, the sort of thing I’d normally ignore had the accompanying photos not caught my eye. Is it just me, or would Clinton have to go a long, long ways in distance and time to find an uglier and less flattering jacket? It looks like something knitted from an old couch throw to make a trailer-park BBQ cover. Color, texture, tailoring, everything is just R-O-N-G _wrong_. I thought a while before posting this because I don’t think female politicians should be held to any different standard than male ones… but this is like Jeb Bush showing up at a rally in a loud plaid golf jacket with fuzzy dingleballs on the lapels and hem. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/2 "2014-04-24T13:58:34Z")
The secretary of state role aged her about 20 years, in not just physical appearance, but apparently fashion choice as well. ---
**Author:** ![Isilder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/cc9497/32.png) [@Isilder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isilder)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/3 "2014-04-24T13:59:36Z")
A Grandmother’s jacket … ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/4 "2014-04-24T14:47:34Z")
I don’t think I would have noticed it if you hadn’t pointed it out, so I guess no, it doesn’t look that bad to me. I did notice the Christ-like pose the camera caught her in, though, as if she’s calling her followers to gather round. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/5 "2014-04-24T16:22:53Z")
Damn, that looks like something you’d find at a Salvation Army thrift store. I guess her finances took a hit after that Sec. of State gig ended. ---
**Author:** ![Lukeinva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lukeinva/32/17872_2.png) [@Lukeinva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lukeinva)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/6 "2014-04-24T16:26:43Z")
Meh… she’s dresses like a government worker. ---
**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/7 "2014-04-24T18:33:27Z")
> [@Lukeinva](#): > > Meh… she’s dresses like a government worker. A government worker??? Quit with the Oxy Marrons… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![randompattern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7993a0/32.png) [@randompattern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randompattern)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/8 "2014-04-24T18:38:15Z")
What does the big “C” on the pillow stand for? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/9 "2014-04-24T18:51:24Z")
I don’t care what politicians wear. This outfit doesn’t ping my radar one bit. (and I’m not particularly a fan of Mrs. Clinton) Men can wear a gray suit every day. Women have to mix it up a bit. I wouldn’t be too hard on her. She looks fine as a potential president. We’re not evaluating her as a Saturday night date prospect. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/10 "2014-04-24T18:53:19Z")
Usually I think she dresses all right - I never minded all the pantsuits, the more colorful the better - but that jacket is just fugly. > [@randompattern](#): > > What does the big “C” on the pillow stand for? She spoke at the Univ. of Connecticut. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/11 "2014-04-24T21:55:33Z")
I can’t imagine caring less. A politician wore a jacket. If she were my personal stylist, I might care. Heck, I am actually kind of for the ugly jacket. ---
**Author:** ![Sahirrnee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sahirrnee/32/13937_2.png) [@Sahirrnee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sahirrnee)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2014, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/12 "2014-04-24T22:42:52Z")
Reminds me of Herb Tarlek. ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/13 "2014-04-25T00:25:48Z")
The article title is “Hillary Clinton Urges UConn Crowd: Get Involved, Take A Stand”. If she wore boring blend-in clothes or fashionably acceptable clothes or no-brainer dress in lock-step with everyone around you clothes, how would that be taking a stand? How would that be taking a risk? How would that be standing out (which is what it takes to be outstanding by the way)? ---
**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/14 "2014-04-25T07:02:45Z")
> [@Isilder](#): > > A Grandmother’s jacket … She IS 66, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/15 "2014-04-25T11:01:16Z")
Maybe she’s that shape, but at a guess, probably wearing a bullet-proof vest as well. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/16 "2014-04-25T12:19:03Z")
Seems like misogynists never fail to fall for this trick. Over and over. She wears fugly outfit, thereby generating, yet again, the conversation about how male politicians are never publicly judged over such nonsense. I mean, has the press ever speculated that a male presidential candidate might change his mind, upon hearing he’ll soon be a grandfather? I think not. But it successfully puts women’s issues front and centre. When will they learn? Women from both sides of the political divide thinks it’s offencive to judge a female candidate’s hair, clothes, family obligations, arrival of grand children, etc. Red or blue, this reinforces the message, this shit needs to change! ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/17 "2014-04-25T13:51:40Z")
I’m not sure who you’re looking for change from. If you don’t think that jacket is eye-gouging ugly and would have provoked comments on a grandma walking down a city sidewalk, there must be very different sartorial standards in Canuckistan. If any male politician wore the equivalent - let’s just say it’s an old favorite golf jacket from the 1970s - it would provoke comments as well. I don’t think it’s an exclusively m/f thing here. It’s a bizarre, ugly piece of clothing and it’s odd to see a “serious” speaker - politician, CEO, scientist, inventor, whatever - appear in such a thing. So… you’re saying it’s deliberate? Or what? ---
**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/18 "2014-04-25T13:58:27Z")
It’s nowhere near as bad (or hilarious) as Mitt Romney wearing a guayabera. It looks like a jacket an older woman would wear. Hillary is an older woman. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/19 "2014-04-25T14:32:37Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > I’m not sure who you’re looking for change from. If you don’t think that jacket is eye-gouging ugly and would have provoked comments on a grandma walking down a city sidewalk, there must be very different sartorial standards in Canuckistan. > > If any male politician wore the equivalent - let’s just say it’s an old favorite golf jacket from the 1970s - it would provoke comments as well. I don’t think it’s an exclusively m/f thing here. It’s a bizarre, ugly piece of clothing and it’s odd to see a “serious” speaker - politician, CEO, scientist, inventor, whatever - appear in such a thing. > > So… you’re saying it’s deliberate? Or what? But this is not like a golf jacket. It is a pastel blazer that is in line with normal professional dress. It just happens to be unflattering. Women can’t win. When they do the “let’s just wear the same general thing,” like the old school Hilary pants suit, they get mocked. When they wear other things, they get mocked for being too sexy (Sarah Palin) or too frumpy. Screw it. Viva the ugly jacket. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862/20 "2014-04-25T14:45:43Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > So… you’re saying it’s deliberate? Or what? I’m saying it’s really ballsy to acknowledge in the OP that commenting on her jacket is sexist and then doing it anyway. TIL you can never be sexist as long as you define away the male equivalent. And all golf jackets are ugly as sin. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-jacket/686862.md?page=2)