# Hillary's place in a Bernie Presidency?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-place-in-a-bernie-presidency/735121>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 19, 2015, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-place-in-a-bernie-presidency/735121 "2015-10-19T09:32:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-place-in-a-bernie-presidency/735121/41 "2015-10-22T12:57:11Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> I would disagree that Foreign Policy in hr first term was a success, if anything, Kerry with the Iran and Cuba deals can claim more sucesses. Not to mention the TPP.

Cuba was all Obama, he simply made the decision to normalize relations and Kerry just had to do the detail stuff. Iran was Kerry but I don’t think that’s a success, or at least it can’t be called a success just yet since the deal only has one objective and that objective can’t be judged until 15-20 years down the road. TPP was as much Clinton as Kerry. Clinton was a big part of getting rid of Qaddafi and was the most vocal advocate of getting bin laden as soon as possible while others wanted to wait for more intelligence.

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> Mrs Clinton’s main foreign policy issues, Russian reset, Libya, Syria, Arab Spring have been pretty mich unmitigated disasters. Its not her fault, and the successes are not totally due to Kerry either. But, I suspect that Mrs Clinton’s time as SoS will be seen as a failure by most future historians

The Russian reset was just a horrible misjudgement but Bush made the same misjudgement about Putin. The only reason the “reset” looks worse is optics, because Clinton implicitly blamed Bush for our bad relations with Russia. She was wrong. It’s Putin who is the asshole in this story.

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