# Hillary's running mate?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 28, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054 "2015-05-28T17:33:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/41 "2015-05-31T22:21:19Z")

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> Quoth **adaher** :
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> But no, it won’t be Bill for a multitude of reasons. First being that they are already a two for one deal. Hillary being the face of the administration instead of Bill should change nothing. It’s still a co-Presidency.

Not even close. In 1993-2001, William Jefferson Clinton was President. Possibly starting in 2017, Hillary Rodham Clinton will be President. They are two separate people. Hillary was not a member of Bill’s administration, and should Hillary be elected, Bill will not be a member of her administration. You would be on much firmer ground arguing that, say, Bush and Cheney were co-presidents.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/42 "2015-05-31T22:34:38Z")

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But why not? I could see Bill Clinton as Sec of State.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/43 "2015-05-31T23:43:28Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> But why not? I could see Bill Clinton as Sec of State.

Not gonna happen in a Hillary Clinton Administration: [5 U.S. Code § 3110 - Employment of relatives; restrictions | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3110)

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/44 "2015-05-31T23:48:12Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not gonna happen in a Hillary Clinton Administration: [5 U.S. Code § 3110 - Employment of relatives; restrictions | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3110)

I see that became law in 1967. It must have been a reaction to Kennedy appointing his brother as Attorney General.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/45 "2015-06-01T00:22:44Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not gonna happen in a Hillary Clinton Administration: [5 U.S. Code § 3110 - Employment of relatives; restrictions | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3110)

That’s interesting. I could have sworn that there was a lot of speculation back in 2008 about Bill possibly serving in a HRC cabinet.

I guess that also means the in House of Cards…

Frank wouldn’t have been legally permitted to appoint Clare Ambassador to the U.N…

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/46 "2015-06-01T02:58:28Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> I don’t think that’s an error, since it’s tough for VPs to directly succeed their predecessors. I think Bush 41 was the only one to pull it off in the postwar era where the Big Guy didn’t die first?

Bush 41 was the second sitting Vice-President elected President since the passage of the 12th Amendment. The other one was Martin Van Buren.

Choosing a Veep candidate with an eye to grooming him to be the successor in eight years has never been a big part of the choice of a running mate.

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/47 "2015-06-01T03:56:43Z")

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No, but I still maintain it’s useful to have a logical successor, even if it won’t be in eight years. Al Gore could probably be President if he wanted to, and Joe Biden could very well win if Clinton stumbles. Cheney was obviously chosen for different reasons and Quayle, well, he’s still gaining acceptance.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/48 "2015-06-01T15:57:15Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> … and Quayle, well, he’s still gaining acceptance.

He left office on January 20, 1993. Should be any day now!

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/49 "2015-06-01T16:17:49Z")

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I don’t know, I think that a dynamic younger woman might be a good choice. The pitiful state of the Republican roster makes me think maybe she could win some support there. Rile up the right, they’ll let their misogynist freak flag fly, all to Hillary’s gain. She could just sit back and watch them undo themselves!

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/50 "2015-06-03T01:24:58Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> Not gonna happen in a Hillary Clinton Administration: [5 U.S. Code § 3110 - Employment of relatives; restrictions | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/3110)

IANAL, but doesn’t that just prohibit Bill Clinton from drawing a salary during his wife’s administration (ie he can still serve as Secretary of State without being paid). Granted even if I’m right I don’t see HRC appointing her husband to Cabinet.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/51 "2015-06-03T01:48:14Z")

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“[N]ot entitled to pay” is indeed the penalty under Section ©. But Section (b) flatly states, “A public official may not appoint… any individual who is a relative of the public official.” He could not lawfully hold the office, even if he were to waive his salary.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/52 "2015-06-03T09:51:15Z")

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> [@TV\_time](#):
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> None come readily to mind. I mean, obviously, it can’t be another woman.

Why not? Obama picked another man!

Of course it can be another woman. Maybe a “WoC.”

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/53 "2015-06-03T09:53:10Z")

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> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#):
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> Elizabeth Warren. Or Tina Fey.
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> Or the exceptionally qualified and popular choice… William J. Blythe III.

Meh. I think she should look outside the family (and the Family) and choose noted race scholar C. Julius Rock III.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/54 "2015-06-03T09:54:51Z")

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> [@DSeid](#):
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> Webb is the logical choice but I’d throw Sherrod Brown in the mix too. Senator from Ohio. There is no path to a GOP victory that does not include both Virginia and Ohio minimally. Castro will get a keynote speech and a high level position to set him up to potentially be a player in 8 years.

Unless she’s planning to die in her first term, I’d prefer she not do that. Brown should be at the top of the ticket, or stay in the Senate where he can be his own man.

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [June 3, 2015, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/55 "2015-06-03T10:10:55Z")

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> [@diggerwam](#):
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> Joaquin or Julian Castro. Young, Latino, from Texas. This one is a lock.

Wow, there are two of them, I didn’t even know.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/56 "2015-06-05T02:50:02Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Unless she’s planning to die in her first term, I’d prefer she not do that. Brown should be at the top of the ticket, or stay in the Senate where he can be his own man.

Not sure who’d I want on the top of the ticket but pretty sure I want a deeper bench than we’ve got now. I’d want to have to choose between a few decent choices in a real primary season.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2015, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hillarys-running-mate/721054/57 "2015-06-05T04:07:05Z")

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> [@foolsguinea](#):
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> Of course it can be another woman. Maybe a “WoC.”

Don’t be silly.

A Canadian woman wouldn’t be eligible to run.

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