# Hil's too sexy for this pic, Sec of State's gonna leave me. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 9, 2011, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255 "2011-05-09T11:03:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/181 "2011-05-11T19:57:28Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > I want to point out that the blog post in the OP edited _Biden_ out of their version of the photo. What hypocrites! > > 😃 Cropping a picture is not the same as photoshopping out a person in the middle of a picture. Obviously, a photograph doesn’t show every thing in a room. If it’s cropped to show somewhat less, it’s not making any assertion about what’s left out. Besides, who has religious objections to seeing Joe Biden’s image? ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/182 "2011-05-11T20:00:30Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Too busy adding (D) after Osama bin Laden’s name, I daresay. That should be (D-Pakistan). No wonder Fox won’t hire you. > [@Giles](#): > > Besides, who has religious objections to seeing Joe Biden’s image? Anyone who ever went to church with him, and now wants to deny ever knowing him? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/183 "2011-05-11T20:04:31Z")
You are going to have to be a bit more explicit with your innuendos. Who, what church, where, and WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/184 "2011-05-11T20:18:48Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > You are going to have to be a bit more explicit with your innuendos. Who, what church, where, and WTF? Well, I was only throwing out a hypothetical on who might. I don’t know where or if he ever went to church, or why someone there might not like him anymore. Maybe it had something to do with him snoring in the pews? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/185 "2011-05-11T20:43:34Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > A lot of who? Men? Hasidic Jews? Rapists? Strippers? Who’s the “them” refer to in your post? Hasidic Jewish men. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/186 "2011-05-11T21:53:08Z")
> [@Giles](#): > > Cropping a picture is not the same as photoshopping out a person in the middle of a picture. Obviously, a photograph doesn’t show every thing in a room. If it’s cropped to show somewhat less, it’s not making any assertion about what’s left out. A cropped image _can_ be unethical if it’s trying to distort the reality of the situation by purposefully cropping an important element out, whether that element is cropped out in-camera or after-the-fact. This is not one of those situations, in my opinion, but I did want to note that the mere act of cropping can certainly be as unethical as Photoshopping out a person. ---
**Author:** ![rekkah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ee59a6/32.png) [@rekkah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rekkah)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/187 "2011-05-11T22:10:03Z")
> [@](#): > > but according to the editor who emailed me back, the article did mention Clinton and noted all the VIPs. hardly misleading once you consider that its readers have had a looooonnng history of no women in a photo. Since you’re in contact with him, could you inquire why they went to the effort of photoshopping in empty chairs rather than blurring/pixelating the women or cropping the photo? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/188 "2011-05-12T04:23:16Z")
I suppose pixelating works for guys that are good looking, but if you’re ugly, you kinda have to go for flat out drunk. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/189 "2011-05-12T15:33:23Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > A cropped image _can_ be unethical if it’s trying to distort the reality of the situation by purposefully cropping an important element out, whether that element is cropped out in-camera or after-the-fact. This is not one of those situations, in my opinion, but I did want to note that the mere act of cropping can certainly be as unethical as Photoshopping out a person. These croppings are unethical because they detract from Hillary’s significance. She is an important part of the staff. She is part of the inner circle . Yet she gets erased due to some atavistic religious concept. It diminishes her. If you continually remove women from pictures that show them with power, you eventually think women are not part of the power in government. She is specifically diminished and women in general are too. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/190 "2011-05-12T15:54:23Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > These croppings are unethical because they detract from Hillary’s significance. She is an important part of the staff. She is part of the inner circle . Yet she gets erased due to some atavistic religious concept. It diminishes her. If you continually remove women from pictures that show them with power, you eventually think women are not part of the power in government. She is specifically diminished and women in general are too. Sorry for being unclear. I was talking about the (facetious) comment about the cropped Biden photo. Hillary wasn’t cropped; she was Photoshopped out. Of course that’s unethical–there’s no question whatsoever on that. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/191 "2011-05-12T16:51:19Z")
> [@rekkah](#): > > Since you’re in contact with him, could you inquire why they went to the effort of photoshopping in empty chairs rather than blurring/pixelating the women or cropping the photo? See, there you run the risk of some enterprising young Hasid figuring out how to unblur or reassemble the pixels, gazing upon Hillary, and being overcome with lust. (In my youth, it was sticking a nail into the underside of the cable box at just the right angle to unscramble the Playboy Channel.) ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/192 "2011-05-12T17:08:41Z")
Hmmm… I wonder if young Hasids have an angle you could stick a nail in to unscramble _them_? Probably not. ---
**Author:** ![Aeris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Aeris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeris)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/193 "2011-05-13T20:40:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Actually, the problem was that they were all wearing [this](http://www.rickey.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Princess-beatrice-hat-obama-war-room.jpg). Removing the women entirely was to save them from fashion embarrassment. YEEEEEEEEEEES!! Omg that’s so awful considering what they’re watching but it’s just so damn funny! Look at Obama! HA! ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/194 "2011-05-13T21:41:15Z")
A couple of more altered versions of the picture [One](http://urlybits.com/2011/05/superhero-situation-room/) [Two](http://raincoaster.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/situation-normal-all-fucked-up.jpg?w=535&h=356) [Three](http://api.photoshop.com/v1.0/accounts/597e841edb6f47e1be2792af97e834ad/assets/2e0ec53e4750477e8e4c17b61ba85205) There’s one with all the men edited out, but I can’t find it. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/195 "2011-05-13T22:35:15Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > There’s one with all the men edited out, but I can’t find it. [This one](http://www.feministe.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Hillary1.jpg)? ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/196 "2011-05-13T23:20:20Z")
> [@Punoqllads](#): > > [This one](http://www.feministe.us/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Hillary1.jpg)? Dunno. I get a message saying “Forbidden” and I can’t see it. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/197 "2011-05-13T23:22:04Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Dunno. I get a message saying “Forbidden” and I can’t see it. Cut and paste the URL back into the address bar, and it’ll work for you. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/198 "2011-05-13T23:22:48Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Dunno. I get a message saying “Forbidden” and I can’t see it. Just go up to your address bar and hit enter again. Worked for me. Or cut and paste the link into another tab. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/199 "2011-05-13T23:23:40Z")
Yeah, that’s the one. Saw it on Maddow last night. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255.md?page=9)