# Hil's too sexy for this pic, Sec of State's gonna leave me.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 9, 2011, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255 "2011-05-09T11:03:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/41 "2011-05-09T20:55:42Z")

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A practical suggestion for _Der Tzitung_: If you ever want to show a picture of Goldie Meir being sworn in as prime minister of Israel, show her in a bear suit.

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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/42 "2011-05-09T21:15:19Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> I saw the before picture and started masturbating like a motherfuck, but then I saw the after picture went straight to temple.

Glad to see I’m not the only one who’s spank bank preferences fell out the bottom of hardcore porn and went right back to newspaper photos.

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/43 "2011-05-09T22:03:00Z")

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> The original photograph was released by the White House with the strict instructions that it must "not be manipulated in any way and may not be used in commercial or political materials, advertisements, emails, products, promotions that in any way suggests approval or endorsement of the President, the First Family, or the White House.”

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> The White House released a picture showing the President following “live” the events in the apprehension of Osama Bin Laden, last week Sunday. Also present in the Situation Room were various high-ranking government and military officials. Our photo editor realized the significance of this historic moment, and published the picture, but in his haste he did not read the “fine print” that accompanied the picture, forbidding any changes. We should not have published the altered picture, and we have conveyed our regrets and apologies to the White House and to the State Department.

You know, something’s not right here. Government-produced photos are in the public domain, once they’ve been publicly released. I don’t think it’s legal to prevent others from manipulating them.

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/44 "2011-05-09T22:13:03Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> You know, something’s not right here. Government-produced photos are in the public domain, once they’ve been publicly released. I don’t think it’s legal to prevent others from manipulating them.

The government can’t prevent you from manipulating them, but you might find yourself unceremoniously unsubscribed from the relevant distribution list thenceforth.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/45 "2011-05-09T22:13:15Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> - And what did Hasidic Jewish newspapers do 1969-1974? Print empty spaces above a caption saying “Prime Minister of Israel”?

Clearly, they thought Meir [was a man.](http://www.imemc.org/attachments/oct2010/golda_meir.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/46 "2011-05-09T22:17:04Z")

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After double-checking on [whitehouse.gov](http://whitehouse.gov):

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> Pursuant to federal law, government-produced materials appearing on this site are not copyright protected. The United States Government may receive and hold copyrights transferred to it by assignment, bequest, or otherwise.

And

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> Except where otherwise noted, third-party content on this site is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 License.
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> > You are free: to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work, to Remix — to adapt the work. Under the following conditions: Attribution — You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

Whether an “Official White House Photo by Pete Souza” is government-produced or third-party content, one can legally mutilate the image.

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**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/47 "2011-05-10T01:14:35Z")

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> [@](#):
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> And what did Hasidic Jewish newspapers do 1969-1974? Print empty spaces above a caption saying “Prime Minister of Israel”?

Hasidic-owned papers would probably not have had much occasion to print her picture anyway, as most American Hasidim range from ambivalent about the State to outright hostility. As such, whoever the Prime Minister of Israel was (whether it was Golda Meir or anyone else) would not have mattered too much to them.

Zev Steinhardt

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**Author:** ![Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Sparky\_the\_Wonder\_Spirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky_the_Wonder_Spirit)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/48 "2011-05-10T02:03:07Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> You know, something’s not right here. Government-produced photos are in the public domain, once they’ve been publicly released. I don’t think it’s legal to prevent others from manipulating them.

Just that whole pesky ‘journalistic integrity’ thing.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/49 "2011-05-10T02:22:23Z")

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Where did they find an Orthodox Jew to photoshop the image on the Sabbath?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/50 "2011-05-10T02:49:20Z")

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Not if they can find a shabby goy, they work cheap.

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**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/51 "2011-05-10T02:54:39Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Not if they can find a shabby goy, they work cheap.

A shabbas goy would be even better than a shabby one.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/52 "2011-05-10T04:46:02Z")

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> [@Tom\_Scud](#):
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> This needs to be a photoshop.

I have no idea how to use photoshop otherwise I’d try.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/53 "2011-05-10T04:56:49Z")

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I dunno why, but there’s gotta be a Janet Reno joke in here somewhere.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/54 "2011-05-10T05:12:33Z")

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> [@Pleonast](#):
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> After double-checking on [whitehouse.gov](http://whitehouse.gov):
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> Whether an “Official White House Photo by Pete Souza” is government-produced or third-party content, one can legally mutilate the image.

This Pete Souza guy has got to be military. They are all watching ObL geting killed.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/55 "2011-05-10T05:14:15Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> These guys must be rapists living on a hair trigger. Anything can set them off. They would have to live in blindfolds to not see even more evocative and sexy photos every hour or so. It does not say anything about Hillary and her clothes. It says a lot about the weird men though.

I went to a bachelor party a few years back and according to the strippers a lot of them like to get tied up and whipped. I don’t know if they were making it up or not but they seemed sincere.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/56 "2011-05-10T06:09:02Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > These guys must be rapists living on a hair trigger. Anything can set them off. They would have to live in blindfolds to not see even more evocative and sexy photos every hour or so. It does not say anything about Hillary and her clothes. It says a lot about the weird men though.
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> I went to a bachelor party a few years back and according to the strippers a lot of them like to get tied up and whipped. I don’t know if they were making it up or not but they seemed sincere.

A lot of who? Men? Hasidic Jews? Rapists? Strippers? Who’s the “them” refer to in your post?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/57 "2011-05-10T06:46:46Z")

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I hear they can get pretty wild. Sometimes they’ll blow the chauffeur.

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/58 "2011-05-10T06:57:26Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I hear they can get pretty wild. Sometimes they’ll blow the chauffeur.

😃

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/59 "2011-05-10T07:22:22Z")

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> [@zev\_steinhardt](#):
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> Hasidic-owned papers would probably not have had much occasion to print her picture anyway, as most American Hasidim range from ambivalent about the State to outright hostility. As such, whoever the Prime Minister of Israel was (whether it was Golda Meir or anyone else) would not have mattered too much to them.

So Maggie Thatcher? Elizabeth II? Benazir Bhutto? All just not mentioned and/or never depicted?

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 8:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hils-too-sexy-for-this-pic-sec-of-states-gonna-leave-me/581255/60 "2011-05-10T08:52:14Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I hear they can get pretty wild. Sometimes they’ll blow the chauffeur.

I didnt get the joke. Could you educate a foreigner?

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