# HIMYM Episode 1/3/11 - "Bad News" \*\*Possible Spoilers\*\*

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**Created:** [January 4, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367 "2011-01-04T14:35:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/41 "2011-01-05T14:35:27Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> That articles states that we know Ted is going to meet the mother at the wedding. When did we learn about that?

In the season premiere this year, the one with Rachel Bilson returning.

There were flash-forward scenes of a wedding, and the possible impression that it was supposed to be Ted’s wedding, and that Mom was Rachel’s friend at the bar, who he was angling to get an introduction to. (Since we already knew that Mom is Rachel’s roommate.)

But then, it turned out that the friend was somebody different, who Rachel made a move on in front of Ted, and they ended up together and adopting a daughter. “No, that girl wasn’t your mother, but she became somebody’s mother. They both did.”

And then the voice-over told us that it was at the wedding that he finally met Mom.

(Good thing for preview - I almost submitted with ‘season finale’ in place of ‘season premiere.’ Of course, that just means that I’ve missed an even more foolish mistake somewhere…)

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/42 "2011-01-05T14:59:47Z")

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Okay - so we just don’t know \*which \*wedding, right? We’re currently assuming it’s “college buddy”, but could very well be some other random wedding. My guess: Ted starts getting it on on the side with Zoey, who drags him out to a string of social engagements, one of which is a wedding. Hilarity ensues as he tries to convince people he and Zoey aren’t an item (for fear of being turned into bait by The Captain).

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/43 "2011-01-05T15:09:01Z")

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> [@chrisk](#):
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> But then, it turned out that the friend was somebody different, who Rachel made a move on in front of Ted, and they ended up together and adopting a daughter. “No, that girl wasn’t your mother, but she became somebody’s mother. They both did.”
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> And then the voice-over told us that it was at the wedding that he finally met Mom.

My guess is that he’s going to meet her, but we’re not. In other words, he’ll be on-screen while she’s off-screen or we’ll just see her from the back.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/44 "2011-01-05T16:16:36Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Okay - so we just don’t know \*which \*wedding, right? We’re currently assuming it’s “college buddy”, but could very well be some other random wedding. My guess: Ted starts getting it on on the side with Zoey, who drags him out to a string of social engagements, one of which is a wedding. Hilarity ensues as he tries to convince people he and Zoey aren’t an item (for fear of being turned into bait by The Captain).

The original assumption was that it was Punchy’s wedding, but at the end of the last episode, Robin asked Ted if he would be her Best Man, should she ever get married.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/45 "2011-01-05T16:32:57Z")

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> [@chrisk](#):
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> In the season premiere this year, the one with Rachel Bilson returning.
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> There were flash-forward scenes of a wedding, and the possible impression that it was supposed to be Ted’s wedding, and that Mom was Rachel’s friend at the bar, who he was angling to get an introduction to. (Since we already knew that Mom is Rachel’s roommate.)
> 
> But then, it turned out that the friend was somebody different, who Rachel made a move on in front of Ted, and they ended up together and adopting a daughter. “No, that girl wasn’t your mother, but she became somebody’s mother. They both did.”
> 
> And then the voice-over told us that it was at the wedding that he finally met Mom.
> 
> (Good thing for preview - I almost submitted with ‘season finale’ in place of ‘season premiere.’ Of course, that just means that I’ve missed an even more foolish mistake somewhere…)

Lilly indicates that Ted is the Best Man at this wedding.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/46 "2011-01-05T18:29:32Z")

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Did Joss Weadon have a hand is writing the episode, possibly under a pseudonym? 😉

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/47 "2011-01-05T18:35:09Z")

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Why?

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**Author:** ![zeldarae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/f14d63/32.png) [@zeldarae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zeldarae)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/48 "2011-01-05T19:12:14Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Why?

Do you really have to ask? An unexpected (and competely needless to the storyline) death, the most egregious example being Wash in Serenity. I can’t forgive him for that one.

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**Author:** ![chrisk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@chrisk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chrisk)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/49 "2011-01-05T19:28:16Z")

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> [@zeldarae](#):
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> Do you really have to ask? An unexpected (and competely needless to the storyline) death, the most egregious example being Wash in Serenity. I can’t forgive him for that one.

What the heck do they teach people up at Wesleyan? 😉

(The creators of HIMYM are Wesleyan grads, as is Joss.)

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**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/50 "2011-01-05T19:55:39Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> Okay - so we just don’t know \*which \*wedding, right? We’re currently assuming it’s “college buddy”, but could very well be some other random wedding. My guess: Ted starts getting it on on the side with Zoey, who drags him out to a string of social engagements, one of which is a wedding. Hilarity ensues as he tries to convince people he and Zoey aren’t an item (for fear of being turned into bait by The Captain).

That makes no sense, because Lily and Marshall were at the wedding. Marshall was also wearing a tux, indicating he was in the wedding party, too. And I’m pretty sure Lily’s dress was of “bridesmaid” quality.

So there’s no way it’s just some random Wedding Ted is dragged to. From what we know so far, it is most likely either Punchy’s, Robin’s, or Barney’s (though there’s certainly reason enough that those two could be one in the same.)

It seems unlikely that it would be Punchy’s, to me, because he is Ted’s high school friend, not college. Punchy is just acquaintances with Marshall and Lily, so there’s no reason for Marshall to be in the wedding party, and generally it’s a little bit gouache to wear a tuxedo to a wedding if you’re not in the wedding party (with some exceptions made for evening weddings, which this wasn’t.)

In that episode, there was a “longing stare” that Barney gave Robin when she changed out of her sweats into a sun dress, and couple that with Robin saying Ted could be her “best man” leads me to think her and Barney tie the knot.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/51 "2011-01-05T20:33:48Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> In that episode, there was a “longing stare” that Barney gave Robin when she changed out of her sweats into a sun dress, and couple that with Robin saying Ted could be her “best man” leads me to think her and Barney tie the knot.

Wasn’t it hinted strongly that Robin and her former co-anchor tie the knot?

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/52 "2011-01-05T21:08:04Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> …So there’s no way it’s just some random Wedding Ted is dragged to. From what we know so far, it is most likely either Punchy’s, Robin’s, or Barney’s (though there’s certainly reason enough that those two could be one in the same.)…

Speaking of Barney, has it been hinted that he’s even still alive in 2030? 😕 I always get the impression that while Ted’s kids are very familiar Robin they don’t know Barney first-hand. I don’t recall any flash-forwards with an old Barney like there’ve been with Marchal, Lily, & Robin.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/53 "2011-01-05T23:16:04Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Speaking of Barney, has it been hinted that he’s even still alive in 2030? 😕 I always get the impression that while Ted’s kids are very familiar Robin they don’t know Barney first-hand. I don’t recall any flash-forwards with an old Barney like there’ve been with Marchal, Lily, & Robin.

Actually, I don’t think Robin has been in any of them, either. But I don’t see that as a reason to think they’re dead.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/54 "2011-01-05T23:23:21Z")

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Wasn’t there a flash-forward scene last season of the main characters on a porch? I thought it included all of them.

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**Post date:** [January 5, 2011, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/55 "2011-01-05T23:52:31Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> Actually, I don’t think Robin has been in any of them, either. But I don’t see that as a reason to think they’re dead.

Robin lived at least until the kids were 6 or 7 - we see a flashforward of drawings the kids made of “Me and Aunt Robin”.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/56 "2011-01-06T00:37:53Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Wasn’t there a flash-forward scene last season of the main characters on a porch? I thought it included all of them.

The scene on the porch wasn’t a proper flash forward. IIRC, it was Lilly imagining the future. ie: Robin had passed the “would she be welcome at our beach house in thiry years” test. Evil Donna did not.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/57 "2011-01-06T00:51:43Z")

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> [@Kingspades](#):
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> “Countdown? What countdown?” posts.

Sorry LOL I’m gonna have to be one of those “Countdown?” people. I’ve since looked it up, but I have to admit the countdown completely went unnoticed by me. I do remember thinking it was odd that they focused on the beer can in his Dad’s workshop, but then later I just figured it was foreshadowing that he was in bad health.

The end had me tearing up.

I loved the Barny doppelganger. The return of the sensory Deprovator 5000 and the wacky Robin flashbacks were a nice touch. What’s up with glasses Robin! Still sexy but a very different look. I’m starting to believe the whole Clark Kent / Superman disguise…

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/58 "2011-01-06T00:59:24Z")

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> [@bouv](#):
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> It seems unlikely that it would be Punchy’s, to me, because he is Ted’s high school friend, not college.

Also, Punchy lives far away, and his and Ted’s hometown is far away. There’s no reason for Punchy to have his wedding in NYC, and it would be a strangely huge coincidence for the Mother who also lives in NYC, to be at the same random out of state wedding.

> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> Wasn’t it hinted strongly that Robin and her former co-anchor tie the knot?

No.

Just no.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/59 "2011-01-06T12:23:48Z")

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> [@jackdavinci](#):
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> No.
> 
> Just no.

I think **Maus** was referring to Don from last season, not Sandy.

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**Post date:** [January 6, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/himym-episode-1-3-11-bad-news-possible-spoilers/566367/60 "2011-01-06T22:47:05Z")

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You know, usually I’m pretty good at spotting actors, but I had no idea Kyle McLachlan plays The Captain until I read that interview. I didn’t even get a “hey, i know that guy” vibe from him.

I feel like an idiot.

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