# Hipster hats wiith narrow brims: what's the style called?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 15, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072 "2010-01-15T14:35:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072/41 "2010-01-16T18:37:39Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Wow, never mind. You aren’t worth it. It must be great have such a pure, focused sense of self and no self-doubt. You are the man.

LOL. I guess I struck a nerve.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072/42 "2010-01-16T19:18:26Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> LOL. I guess I struck a nerve.

Always a polite thing to do in the middle of conversation. This issue you’re trying to prod me with doesn’t bother me, which is why I feel no need to speak to it. Your tone bothers me - I did nothing rude and don’t appreciate being treated rudely.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072/43 "2010-01-16T19:21:49Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Always a polite thing to do in the middle of conversation. This issue you’re trying to prod me with doesn’t bother me, which is why I feel no need to speak to it. Your tone bothers me - I did nothing rude and don’t appreciate being treated rudely.

You’re not being treated rudely. You voiced derision for some vague cohort. I merely pointed out how your behavior implies your belonging to that cohort. You found this offensive because you didn’t want to be judged as the thing you were deriding.

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072/44 "2010-01-16T19:33:50Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> You’re not being treated rudely. You voiced derision for some vague cohort. I merely pointed out how your behavior implies your belonging to that cohort. You found this offensive because you didn’t want to be judged as the thing you were deriding.

Because the judging was done with no context being sought in a civil way. I’m 46, live in the suburbs and am 25 pounds overweight. When I find a hat that actually works, I am a lucky man - and trust me, I don’t look hip. I have been wearing variants of porkpies and other hats since college, have tried a ton of hats and admittedly looked like a dork - which is different than a douchebag; dorks are trying to emulate their hat-wearing heros like Mike Lieber (of Lieber and Stoller, the songwriting team behind Hound Dog and so many others) and Thelonius Monk - but hopelessly naive in their attempt. I’m that guy; paint away with as broad a brush as you like. Douchebags just see a hat as part of a look.

Can we be done here, Mr. Holier Than Thou?

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072/45 "2010-01-16T19:35:50Z")

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> [@Cubsfan](#):
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> Dude. I seriously came in here to post the exact same thing.
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> Douche.

Hey, now, don’t be a playa hatah. 😃

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072/46 "2010-01-16T19:44:20Z")

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MODERATOR INTERVENETH: **mswas** , personal insults aren’t acceptable in this forum. Cool it. And, **Wordman** , please don’t lower yourself to responding in kind.

We can surely discuss a fashion/fad, and reactions to it, without name-calling and taunting?

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072/47 "2010-01-16T19:45:43Z")

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Yeah, but, _douchehats!_

Sorry, I’ll be quiet now. 🙂

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**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072/48 "2010-01-16T20:10:59Z")

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> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#):
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> MODERATOR INTERVENETH: **mswas** , personal insults aren’t acceptable in this forum. Cool it. And, **Wordman** , please don’t lower yourself to responding in kind.
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> We can surely discuss a fashion/fad, and reactions to it, without name-calling and taunting?

Sorry - you’re right.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072/49 "2010-01-16T20:32:07Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> Are you sure they’re not [homburgs](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homburg_%28hat%29). Where I live, in the '60s, you couldn’t wear a suit without a homburg. It was kinda the defining characteristic of my father’s generation.

Nope. They’re definitely porkpies. Homburgs look very similar to Fedoras, while there’s oddly comical about the proportions of a porkpie, much like a bowler.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2010, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster-hats-wiith-narrow-brims-whats-the-style-called/525072/50 "2010-01-16T21:36:14Z")

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> [@elmwood](#):
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> there’s oddly comical about the proportions of a porkpie, much like a bowler.

Maybe that’s part of why I like them. I’m a comical guy.

I went to a meetup (local film-watching group), and I wore my second-favourte porkpie. Someone mentioned I was wearing ‘a little hat’. I got the impression she thought it was funny. An older gent showed up wearing a traditional fedora, so maybe she was just differentiating between the larger hat he wore and the smaller one I was wearing. But I prefer to think she was amused.

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