# "Hipster"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [September 24, 2014, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442 "2014-09-24T16:41:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/21 "2014-09-25T01:23:51Z")

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Hipsters don’t drink PBR to be ironic, they drink it because it’s cheap. If you don’t have money you’ll drink the cheapest beer at the bar: PBR, Schlitz, Natty Boh…

When Hipsters get money they drink craft beer.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/22 "2014-09-25T01:45:13Z")

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From the film _[Roxanne](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093886/)_:

\*Oh, ho, ho, irony! Oh, no, no, we don’t get that here. See, uh, people ski topless here while smoking dope, so irony’s not really a, a high priority. We haven’t had any irony here since about, uh, '83, when I was the only practitioner of it. And I stopped because I was tired of being stared at. \*

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**Author:** ![kferr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71e660/32.png) [@kferr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kferr)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/23 "2014-09-25T13:17:10Z")

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Mary Berry from _Great British Bakeoff_ [does not like hipsters](http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/piss-off-you-hipster-git-says-mary-berry-2014082889964)

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/24 "2014-09-25T13:33:19Z")

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> [@Flywheel](#):
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> Q: How did the hipster burn his mouth?
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> A: He was eating pizza before it was cool.

Serious question off of the decent joke.

Is it someone dislikes being part of the crowd that makes them a hipster (thus they no longer find things as appealing when everyone else likes it to), or someone desiring to broadcast that they are outside of the norm that does it?

There is a difference between the two.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/25 "2014-09-25T13:38:06Z")

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For me, it is the deliberate advertising that they are “above” the common run which defines a hipster.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/26 "2014-09-25T13:48:34Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Hipsters don’t drink PBR to be ironic, they drink it because it’s cheap.

I actually do drink PBR because I like it, but I’m not really a hipster. I am gradually regressing into my childhood for reasons entirely unrelated to being cool. Swear.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/27 "2014-09-25T13:52:20Z")

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In the 90s there was a group of dickheads commonly called “poseurs”. I tend to think of hipsters as the best poseurs mixed with the worst hippies.

They all wear little hats, scarves, shoes without socks, and dark rimmed glasses (sometimes without real lenses). They’re very carefully showing how much they don’t care.

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/28 "2014-09-25T14:09:05Z")

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It’s okay if they call themselves hipsters if they were doing it before hipsters were cool. Starting to call yourself a hipster now is just way behind the times.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/29 "2014-09-25T15:10:40Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Hipsters don’t drink PBR to be ironic, they drink it because it’s cheap. If you don’t have money you’ll drink the cheapest beer at the bar: PBR, Schlitz, Natty Boh…

[If cheap were really the concern,](http://www.amicodc.com/menu/) hipsters wouldn’t be going out to bars to pay $5 per can of Pabst.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/30 "2014-09-25T16:28:17Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> [If cheap were really the concern,](http://www.amicodc.com/menu/) hipsters wouldn’t be going out to bars to pay $5 per can of Pabst.

That’s fairly atypical, in my experience. PBR was usually the $2 can option vs the normally priced $5-$7 beers at the more youngster crowded bars I’ve been to. Sometimes it could come close, but if I’m in the mood for a macrolager, and it’s the $5 Miller High Life vs the $5 PBR (like on that menu), I’m picking the PBR, because it tastes better to me.

ETA: For example, [here’s the menu](http://www.beermenus.com/places/1974-maria-s-packaged-goods-community-bar) for a pretty hipster bar called “Maria’s Packaged Goods” in Bridgeport. PBR is $3 a can. That’s more typical of the hipsterish bars around here, and I will drink PBR or Old Style or whatever when I feel like stretching my dollar or when I’m not in the mood for a microbrew.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/31 "2014-09-25T16:35:32Z")

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ETA ^ So, actually, you’re right, it’s more than one concern. It’s price and quality for price. PBR is a reasonably tasty beer for what it is.

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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/32 "2014-09-25T18:25:07Z")

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FWIW, the menu I linked to is pretty standard prices here in DC. I’m always surprised how much cheaper beer is in the rest of the country, but even still, if money were the prime factor (as opposed to the brand), the stinkin’ hipsters would buy a six-pack for $5 rather than a single can for half a sawbuck at a place that used to be cool before people knew about it.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/33 "2014-09-25T18:41:56Z")

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That doesn’t necessarily follow. I pretty much only drink in bars, because I don’t enjoy drinking alone.

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**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/34 "2014-09-25T19:00:31Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> FWIW, the menu I linked to is pretty standard prices here in DC. I’m always surprised how much cheaper beer is in the rest of the country, but even still, if money were the prime factor (as opposed to the brand), the stinkin’ hipsters would buy a six-pack for $5 rather than a single can for half a sawbuck at a place that used to be cool before people knew about it.

I actually thought those prices were on the cheaper side for DC. My father in law just came out from Arkansas and the prices almost made his head explode. Then we went to a game at Nats Park and I thought he was going to have a stroke.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/35 "2014-09-25T19:02:43Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> [If cheap were really the concern,](http://www.amicodc.com/menu/) hipsters wouldn’t be going out to bars to pay $5 per can of Pabst.

It’s still the cheapest beer at that joint. I don’t know the place but it looks more yuppie than hipster. Hipsters go to the Red Derby, and get cheap cans for a buck at happy hour.

But yeah, five bucks for a PBR. Jesus.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/36 "2014-09-25T19:14:31Z")

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> [@DrCube](#):
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> “Hipster” has been watered down to mean almost anything. The whole “ironic” thing is overblown, I think. How does anyone do anything ironically?

It’s just a way of passing off something that would not be “hip” as “cool” For example, bowling shirts, which were worn “ironically” then of course Hipsters started bowling which meant…

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**Author:** ![Crotalus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crotalus/32/41_2.png) [@Crotalus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crotalus)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/37 "2014-09-25T19:17:07Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> It’s just a way of passing off something that would not be “hip” as “cool” For example, bowling shirts, which were worn “ironically” then of course Hipsters started bowling which meant…

They’re wearing the shirts sincerely but bowling ironically? 😃

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/38 "2014-09-25T19:21:28Z")

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The whole irony thing is really overblown. Most people, hipsters or whatever, do things because they like to do them. Sure a bit of irony is fun, but I’ll bet half of you do the same thing. Lot of MST3K fans on the dope, and what is MST3K but watching terrible movies ironically?

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/39 "2014-09-25T19:28:53Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Hipsters don’t drink PBR to be ironic, they drink it because it’s cheap.

Nope. They drink it 'cause it has that retro working class vibe that some non-working class folk like. There are other beers that are the same price or cheaper.

16 oz cans of PBR run around $4 here.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hipster/699442/40 "2014-09-25T19:31:23Z")

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> [@Laggard](#):
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> Nope. They drink it 'cause it has that retro working class vibe that some non-working class folk like. There are other beers that are the same price or cheaper.

And if there are, that’s what they’ll drink. The PBR thing is a cliche.

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