# His4Ever, JerseyDiamond and Joe\_Cool are hypocrites. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 27, 2002, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139 "2002-11-27T17:18:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EchoKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@EchoKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EchoKitty)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/21 "2002-11-27T18:44:02Z")
The Brewster brings up an interesting question. I have just one question. Why aren’t the Homophobe Twins and Hypocrite-4-ever responding? ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/22 "2002-11-27T18:44:41Z")
> [@](#): > > I apologize for the never-ending, disingenuous attacks on your life and your love. Not sure precisely how these attacks are disingenuous. How can they observe _Proverbs_ and ignore _Matthew_? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/23 "2002-11-27T18:55:56Z")
> [@](#): > > His4ever isn’t stupid like some. She finds out the details on what she is talking about before she decides something is wrong. Oh, right, like everything she says about Catholicism, **Jersey**? Bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/24 "2002-11-27T18:58:55Z")
Maeglin, are you serious? Did you read what **TwistofFate** said? Homebrew has once again conflated them (they don’t condemn folks) with His4ever (who does), in order to spin a disingenuous accusation of hypocrisy. Yeah, there’s nothing like taking someone’s marriage and making that fodder for your third witch-hunt thread full of bullshit accusations. Homebrew should be _real_ proud of this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/25 "2002-11-27T18:58:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TwistofFate \* > \*\*In all fairness, as much as I disagree with Joe\_Cool and JerseyDiamond, and, whoo boy, do I disagree with them, I haven’t seen them condemn anyone. > > Perhaps we can salvage a debate out of this before it becomes a witchhunt. \*\* Oh, I have. In the spanking threads, both of them said if you don’t spank, you’re abusing your child, or something to that effect. She also accused me and **Anahita** of being nosy-because we asked her about a problem SHE MENTIONED IN THAT THREAD with her daughter’s teacher. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/26 "2002-11-27T19:04:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Dr. Lao \* > \*\*Well, unless Jersey’s previous husband is dead. \*\* I didn’t think of this until lunch. If she is a widow and not divorced, then I owe an abject apology. ---
**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/27 "2002-11-27T19:07:00Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*I didn’t think of this until lunch. If she is a widow and not divorced, then I owe an abject apology. \*\* Well, even if she were divorced but her ex passed away, she’d be allowed to remarry, no? Zev Steinhardt ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/28 "2002-11-27T19:09:12Z")
Sure, I’m serious. This isn’t one of those crazy rules in the Old Testament that commands you to wear your beard a certain length lest ye face hellfire. If anything, the injunction to use corporal punishment in Proverbs _is_ a quaint and archaic moral principle. The prohibition in Matthew is serious, temporally more recent, and the document itself is much more central to Christianity than anything in the OT. I don’t care about levelling charges of hypocrisy. I am just pretty curious how JC and JD can reconcile these conflicting issues. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/29 "2002-11-27T19:16:23Z")
> [@](#): > > those crazy rules in the Old Testament Er, **Maeg**? **Zev** ’s a nige guy. What say we dom’t alienate him, huh? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/30 "2002-11-27T19:20:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\*Oh, **do** enlighten us. > > :rolleyes: > > Nice way to throw it back on him and say nothing to prove him wrong, Hypocritina. \*\* Perhaps something escapes me, but why should Jersey (or anybody else for that matter, I don’t know her) have to detail her personnal life on a message board in order to “prove wrong” some random poster? “It’s none of your business” seems to me to be a perfectly valid answer to such an OP… ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/31 "2002-11-27T19:20:08Z")
> [@](#): > > Zev’s a nige guy. What say we dom’t alienate him, huh? 😉 I think he can take it. I can’t help it that I was born Reform. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Briny\_Deep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/briny_deep/32/17188_2.png) [@Briny\_Deep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Briny_Deep)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/32 "2002-11-27T19:25:34Z")
My father the fundamentalist seems to believe that the story of Adam and Eve amounts to a command to be married at all times. “And the LORD God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.” This appears to supersede Jesus’ words about divorce and remarriage. He’s now ending his second marriage, and I expect him to marry again within a year or two. Sorry to drag in family gossip, but it irks me that so many Fundamentalists, who take every word of the Bible literally, can ignore the bits that personally inconvenience them. And this is in no way an attack on Jersey\_Diamond or Joe\_Cool, because I don’t know their circumstances. As has been said, JD could be a widow or a victim of adultery. If she’s not, though, she has some ‘splainin’ to do. No one on this board can expect their personal lives to go unexamined, if they bring up their personal lives at all. We have heard: JD and JC are Biblical Inerrantists; JD has a child; JD and JC are marrying. We have also heard the words of Christ on the subject of divorce and remarriage. Unless an explanation is offered, people certainly will call them out on charges of hypocricy. And if that offends JC or JD, they should keep quiet about their personal lives altogether. People on this board remember what is said; they can put 2 and 2 together; and when something doesn’t add up, they WILL say something. ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/33 "2002-11-27T19:27:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Maeglin \* > I can’t help it that I was born Reform. 😉 What you can help, is your ignorance of the subject. There is, in fact, no law about length of beards in the Bible. If you want to ridicule things, at least make sure you know what you are talking about. And this is not the first time you’ve done this, either. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/34 "2002-11-27T19:30:08Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by clairobscur \* > \*\*Perhaps something escapes me, but why should Jersey (or anybody else for that matter, I don’t know her) have to detail her personnal life on a message board in order to “prove wrong” some random poster? > > “It’s none of your business” seems to me to be a perfectly valid answer to such an OP… \*\* Because they all preach to us about how sinful we are. If she is divorced, then she is being a hypocrite and should quit telling people they are sinning. It’s relevant to her other posts. ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/35 "2002-11-27T19:30:24Z")
If they can throw mud at us, for not wanting to beat our children with belts, books, and wooden spoons, certainly we can cast aspersions for being divorced. Because only Heathen get divorced, you know. :wally :rolleyes: I’d throw out a Bible quote or two, but I see no point in beating people of other religions upside their heads with a book that is holy. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/36 "2002-11-27T19:31:49Z")
> [@](#): > > What you can help, is your ignorance of the subject. There is, in fact, no law about length of beards in the Bible. > > If you want to ridicule things, at least make sure you know what you are talking about. And this is not the first time you’ve done this, either. I was being facetious, **Izzy**. I thought it was pretty obvious, and clearly **andros** did, too. I have nothing to apologize for. I assume you have a cite for the assertion in your second paragraph. ---
**Author:** ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/37 "2002-11-27T19:33:23Z")
I was also called an idiot, but I found that amusing. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/38 "2002-11-27T19:33:43Z")
Not offhand. But I’m sure I can dig it up, if you’d like. ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/39 "2002-11-27T19:34:50Z")
> [@](#): > > Not offhand. But I’m sure I can dig it up, if you’d like. Knock yourself out. ---
**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/40 "2002-11-27T19:38:22Z")
Well, they probably use banks and credit cards, eat pork, eat shrimp, wear mixed clothing, wear their hair in braids, have glasses, have tattoos, etc, etc, etc. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139.md?page=3)