# His4Ever, JerseyDiamond and Joe\_Cool are hypocrites. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 27, 2002, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139 "2002-11-27T17:18:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/41 "2002-11-27T19:39:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by ava \* > \*\*Well, they probably use banks and credit cards, eat pork, eat shrimp, wear mixed clothing, wear their hair in braids, have glasses, have tattoos, etc, etc, etc. \*\* What’s wrong with glasses or braids? Zev Steinhardt ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/42 "2002-11-27T19:40:05Z")
This is fucking pathetic. You’re so desperate to find some dirt on us and insult us that you have to reach this far? You senseless fucking scumbag, homebrew (and you too, maeglin). How do you know she wasn’t raped, or widowed, or a teenage mother, or anything else? But you go ahead and make your assumptions, based on NOTHING, and pat yourselves on the back for how clever you are. I’m not interested in your deductive fucking reasoning, or in how smart you seem to think you are. When you put 2 and 2 together (as masonite said), and come up with 31, it should occur to you that perhaps you don’t have a fucking clue of what you’re talking about, no? Assholes. Ace, clairobscur, andros, thanks for being sensible, unlike the rest of the crowd. ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/43 "2002-11-27T19:43:24Z")
OK Maeglin, [special for you](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?postid=752407#post752407) ---
**Author:** ![Anahita](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a9a28c/32.png) [@Anahita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anahita)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/44 "2002-11-27T19:43:29Z")
For the record, **JC** , it was **Jersey Diamond** that started flinging personal insults (at least at me) and insinuating I must be a nosey teacher. FTR, all I said in this thread was, “Yikes.” ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/45 "2002-11-27T19:44:41Z")
Life’s rough when you prop yourself up as the be all end all of moral purity, isn’t it Joe? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/46 "2002-11-27T19:46:33Z")
Yo, Ace. H4E condemns the wonderful celebratory act by which I worship the deity I adore. Want a really interesting twist on scripture? I knew a Church of the Brethren preacher who (a) would not officiate at mixed race marriages, and (b) taught that the first person you have sex with is thereby your spouse. Of course, he says the Bible says that’s the way it is for both of those. ---
**Author:** ![glarGH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/76d3ee/32.png) [@glarGH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glarGH)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/47 "2002-11-27T19:47:05Z")
> [@](#): > > 27 You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard. > > Leviticus 19:27 Man… No offense, but Leviticus seems a little silly with all that talk of not sowing two kinds of seed in your field or wearing multi-fiber clothing. this was kinda funny though. > [@](#): > > 16 And the LORD said to Moses, 17 "Say to Aaron, None of your descendants throughout their generations who has a blemish may approach to offer the bread of his God. 18 For no one who has a blemish shall draw near, a man blind or lame, or one who has a mutilated face or a limb too long, 19 or a man who has an injured foot or an injured hand, 20 or a hunchback, or a dwarf, or a man with a defect in his sight or an itching disease or scabs or crushed testicles; What the hell? Crushed testicles?? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/48 "2002-11-27T19:47:14Z")
Wow, **Joe** , how Christian of you. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/49 "2002-11-27T19:49:17Z")
Great testimony to the power of Christ to change people into loving, caring humans, Joe. Fuck you. I’ve already stated that if I am wrong in my assumption, then I’ll apologize. But I see you’d rather insult and demonize than clarify. You claim to be Christian, but you certainly don’t act the part. Did Jesus ever vilify those who whipped him? Or did he offer forgiveness, even while he dangled on the cross dying? If Jersey is not divorced but had a child as the result of a rape or she is a widow, then I offer a sincere apology. In either case, whether an apology is owed or not, your witness to Christ is severly compromised by your behavior. Since I don’t claim to witness for Christ, let me state again, Fuck you. Not a screaming, multi-hyphenated, felching-addled insult. Just a calm look you straight in the eye Fuck You. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/50 "2002-11-27T19:49:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*If she is divorced, then she is being a hypocrite and should quit telling people they are sinning. It’s relevant to her other posts. \*\* Please show me this post you so casually refer to, where Jersey\_Diamond (and not anyone else) condemned anyone for sinning. Not just “you sin, I sin, we all sin,” (which she HAS said,) but the same type of assholic hateful garbage you’re spouting here. Want to bet an apology on it? I’m willing. ---
**Author:** ![zev\_steinhardt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/97f17d/32.png) [@zev\_steinhardt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zev_steinhardt)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/51 "2002-11-27T19:49:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by glarGH \* > \*\* > > What the hell? Crushed testicles?? \*\* Yes. There were certain physical deformities that would have prevented a _kohen_ from performing the Temple service. Crushed testicles was one of them. Zev Steinhardt ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/52 "2002-11-27T19:50:47Z")
**glarGH** That’s nothing! At one point, Moses gets God all pissed off, so God MOONS him! Who sait our Lord doesn’t have a sense of humor? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/53 "2002-11-27T19:55:37Z")
> [@](#): > > This is fucking pathetic. You’re so desperate to find some dirt on us and insult us that you have to reach this far? \ I don’t think I have as much of an emotional investment in this as you might believe. As for finding dirt on you, quite honestly, all anyone has to do is let you _speak_. That seems to do the trick on its own. Like I said, I was just curious as to how you resolve the issue. You know, log, mote, and all that. If it’s not relevant, then it’s not relevant. Like I said: > [@](#): > > I don’t care about levelling charges of hypocrisy. Guess I’m a senseless fucking scumbag. Wonder if I’ll be able to sleep tonight. Congratulations on your upcoming wedding, by the way. I do hope the weekend goes well for both of you. ---
**Author:** ![glarGH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/76d3ee/32.png) [@glarGH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glarGH)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/54 "2002-11-27T19:57:38Z")
whew! Sunday School sure was a long time ago! Thanks, **zev** and **Guin**! 🙂 _mutters something about being stuck on the phrase "crushed testicles_ ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/55 "2002-11-27T20:04:53Z")
Izzy: Zing! Let’s “refocus” the discussion, ok? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/56 "2002-11-27T20:06:37Z")
Amazing, **Izzy** , that is precisely the thread _I_ had dug up to demonstrate what a remorselessly obtuse mouthbreather you can be. **Guin** called me her “hero” for refuting your ignorance, and the esteemed **John Corrado** said: > [@](#): > > I think it’s beyond obvious that you don’t know much about the Middle Ages. To you, **Izzy**. But you’re right. I did err in my recollection of Leviticus, which I duly explained and retracted. > [@](#): > > It is a misquotation from another source. You don’t, in fact, have the right to kill your neighbor if you don’t like the smell coming from his house. I was mistakenly referring to Leviticus 1, in which the Lord instructs the Israelites how to prepare a burnt offering. If He doesn’t like the smell, He kills the priests. Clearly I have a serious problem with quoting the Old Testament, since I have made one error and one facetious remark in the past two years. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@The\_Ace\_of\_Swords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Ace_of_Swords)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/57 "2002-11-27T20:10:49Z")
Say, I don’t like the smell coming from this thread… Any recollection whether Leviticus it says I can kill it? ---
**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/58 "2002-11-27T20:12:33Z")
> [@](#): > > Say, I don’t like the smell coming from this thread… Any recollection whether Leviticus it says I can kill it? I gotta say, **Ace** , that if it did, you wouldn’t still be bothering the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![More\_Cowbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@More\_Cowbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/More_Cowbell)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/59 "2002-11-27T20:16:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > \*\*This is fucking pathetic. You’re so desperate to find some dirt on us and insult us that you have to reach this far? You senseless fucking scumbag, homebrew (and you too, maeglin). How do you know she wasn’t raped, or widowed, or a teenage mother, or anything else? > > But you go ahead and make your assumptions, based on NOTHING, and pat yourselves on the back for how clever you are. I’m not interested in your deductive fucking reasoning, or in how smart you seem to think you are. When you put 2 and 2 together (as masonite said), and come up with 31, it should occur to you that perhaps you don’t have a fucking clue of what you’re talking about, no? > > Assholes. > \*\* Apparently you can add [Proverbs 15:1](http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=pr+15:1&version=nrs&st=1&sd=1&new=1&showtools=1), [Romans 12:14-21](http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=Romans+12%3A14-21§ion=0&version=nrs&new=1&oq=&NavBook=ro&NavGo=12&NavCurrentChapter=12) and [Mathew 5:39-48](http://bible.crosswalk.com/OnlineStudyBible/bible.cgi?word=Matthew+5%3A39-48§ion=0&version=nrs&new=1&oq=&NavBook=mt&NavGo=5&NavCurrentChapter=5) to the verse in the OP as well ---
**Author:** ![IzzyR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/2acd7d/32.png) [@IzzyR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IzzyR)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2002, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139/60 "2002-11-27T20:21:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Maeglin \* > Amazing, **Izzy** , that is precisely the thread _I_ had dug up to demonstrate what a remorselessly obtuse mouthbreather you can be. Well regardless of whatever guin or the esteemed John Corrado said, I think I more than held my own in that thread in the face of all sorts of weaseling and backpedaling by people like yourself. But no need to rehash that here. Basically you goofed up, and in such circumstances, trying to deflect this by calling me a “remorselessly obtuse mouthbreather” is poor form. > [@](#): > > Clearly I have a serious problem with quoting the Old Testament, since I have made one error and one facetious remark in the past two years. I couldn’t say. I have not been following all your remarks for the past two years. And it is not like you are a regular commentator on OT themes. So I would venture to say based on evidence to date that it would appear that you know very little about the OT but nonetheless feel comfortable making assertions about it, which tend to be negative ones. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/his4ever-jerseydiamond-and-joe_cool-are-hypocrites/139139.md?page=4)