# History Channel getting flogged with ancient astronaut shows/Bible very scientifically accurate **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 30, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055 "2018-06-30T16:55:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![ned12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f1d935/32.png) [@ned12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ned12)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/1 "2018-06-30T16:55:13Z")
First part of the title of my thread. Lately I have been watching the History Channel and they have had way more than one show about supposedly ancient astronauts (from outer space) who came to earth thousands of years ago and left behind great ancient ruins. They also speculate in these shows that maybe such ancient astronauts influenced Bible events like the Garden of Eden-story. Now, second part of thread-title. The Bible contains incredible scientific facts with dead-on impossible for ancient man in his pagan state to have totally figured out. A sample: 1. Round Earth hanging on nothing. 2. Accurate description of cloud and thunder formation. 3. Birthplace of first-ever civilization (Mesopotamia) (an archaeology fact and archaeology is science). Much more Now, I will somewhat combine the two points. Although, say, the Pyramids of Egypt are amazingly impressive and (despite recent archaeological discoveries concerning their construction) very hard to fully understand how they were made. Ancient astronaut from outer space discoveries remain very silly. For many reasons. One: no computers left behind. Two: no, say, ray guns left behind. But the very incredible Pyramids are there. Somehow they were amazingly constructed. We need to deal with that. I feel and know a way more believable theory is that they were constructed by a few people who had special contact with the Lord Jehova. God somehow gave a special trick to these very ancients in the Pyramid construction. I also feel that ancients from the Middle East visited by boat what is now Mexico and taught the ancients there how to make amazing Pyramids as well. They did not breed with the natives of Mexico (at least not much at all) but they imparted a special secret to pyramid -making to them all the same. ---
**Author:** ![ned12](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f1d935/32.png) [@ned12](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ned12)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/2 "2018-06-30T16:58:03Z")
I want to add the History Channel is sure degenerating badly. About 20 years ago they had tons of great shows and superb brief historical bits on (like, say. about the Dutchman the Bronx in NYC was named after). Now they have mostly just that historical-artifact pawn shop show and these really silly ancient astronaut shows the latter which seem to me to be just a bad attempt just to make money. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/3 "2018-06-30T17:42:00Z")
You left out “investigative series” that go nowhere and turn up nothing, like \*\*\*Hunting Hitler \*\*\*and _ **American Ripper** _. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b2d939/32.png) [@Go\_Arachnid\_Laser\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_Arachnid_Laser_1)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/4 "2018-06-30T18:15:34Z")
> [@ned12](#): > > The Bible contains incredible scientific facts with dead-on impossible for ancient man in his pagan state to have totally figured out. A sample: > > 1. Round Earth hanging on nothing. From my (admittedly, very limited) understanding of the subject, the Bible pretty much describes Earth as a circle, just like most other civilizations of the time thought of it. \*“He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth” \* (Isaiah, 40:22) That is neither unique to the Jewish texts, neither obviously correct. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/5 "2018-06-30T18:18:53Z")
Isn’t this like your fifth thread in which you try to prove the scientific accuracy of the Bible? How did your previous attempts go? Were you able to convince anyone? And what’s the point? Is your faith so weak that you feel the need to find evidence for your beliefs? Isn’t the whole basis of religion that one has faith without proof? ---
**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/6 "2018-06-30T19:37:09Z")
The Bible also clearly says that all the stars are set in a hard dome at a fixed distance from the earth. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/7 "2018-06-30T19:50:24Z")
> [@DavidwithanR](#): > > The Bible also clearly says that all the stars are set in a hard dome at a fixed distance from the earth. The Bible also does not mention a round earth, at least not in Genesis. Mentioning Mesopotamian civilizations is not surprising, since that’s where the Bible writers lived. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/8 "2018-06-30T19:58:11Z")
Right now I’m praying to the Lord Jehova that someone moves this to the Pit. ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/9 "2018-06-30T20:06:50Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Right now I’m praying to the Lord Jehova that someone moves this to the Pit. Have faith! ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/10 "2018-06-30T20:09:07Z")
My, oh, my. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/11 "2018-06-30T21:29:50Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Right now I’m praying to the Lord **Jehova** that someone moves this to the Pit. HE SAID IT AGAIN! you’re only making it worse for yourself you know. ---
**Author:** ![SGNY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@SGNY](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SGNY)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/12 "2018-06-30T21:42:30Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > Right now I’m praying to the Lord Jehova that someone moves this to the Pit. I’m sure they will do that after finishing their Halibut . ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/13 "2018-06-30T21:42:44Z")
**ned** , if you listen very carefully, you’ll hear god saying “Give it a rest, dude.” ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/14 "2018-06-30T22:17:31Z")
The Earth isn’t a circle. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [June 30, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/15 "2018-06-30T22:24:47Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > The Earth isn’t a circle. True, it’s an oblate spheroid. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/16 "2018-07-01T00:17:54Z")
No ray guns left behind, you say? That’s all I need to hear. Put me down for a jesus, please. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/history-channel-getting-flogged-with-ancient-astronaut-shows-bible-very-scientifically-accurate/817055/17 "2018-07-01T00:45:30Z")
**ned12** , we’ve been over this before. Great Debates is the place for witnessing. This thread is closed, and you have an official Warning for failure to follow moderator directions.