# "Hitler mad scene" **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 18, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721 "2014-10-18T16:53:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/21 "2014-10-20T02:57:27Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > nope. > > #1 Bruno Ganz is Swiss > #2 He’s expressed some dismay at the parodies, but mostly because of how much he put into the role of playing Hitler. Doesn’t want to see his work trivialized: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YLqC3DIgjY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YLqC3DIgjY) Ah, am I the only one who’s wondering that, given this interview had to have taken place long after \*Downfall \*was made, what’s with the toothbrush (i.e. Hitler) mustache he’s (still?) sporting?!? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/22 "2014-10-20T05:17:54Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > That Hitler guy seems like kind of a jerk. But he kept the trains running on time. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/23 "2014-10-20T05:40:22Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Obviously, he killed himself in real life not long after. Oh, gee thanks. Way to spoil it for me! :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/24 "2014-10-20T11:56:05Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > #1 Bruno Ganz is Swiss Billy Frick was also from Switzerland. He made a side-career playing Hitler back in the 60’s, most notably in **Is Paris Burning?** Now why would the Swiss want to cast an Austrians in such a bad light? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/25 "2014-10-20T13:24:42Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > I highly recommend watching the actual film (Downfall with English subtitles, _Der Untergang_ in German.) Seconded. It’s very good. You get a powerful sense of the insularity and oppressive atmosphere of the _Fuhrerbunker_ in those last days, and Ganz makes a very convincing Hitler, going from determination to euphoria to anger to despair. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/26 "2014-10-20T13:54:25Z")
What was the first parody to use that clip? The first one I remember was for when Hitler found out that you wouldn’t be able to carry over your character from Dragon Age I to Dragon Age II, but I’m sure it had been around a while. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/27 "2014-10-20T14:48:18Z")
I don’t know, but [here’s mine](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vz6-tJcVvI)! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/28 "2014-10-20T15:02:12Z")
My bad on the German-Swiss confusion. I thought that the Iffland Ring was only for German actors- it’s for German _speaking_ actors and is Austrian in fact. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2014, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/29 "2014-10-20T15:27:23Z")
Nothing really to add to this, except that Bruno Ganz was the best thing about the not-very-good Liam Neeson movie _Unknown_. Ganz plays an unapologetic ex-Stasi officer turned private investigator. He was great! The 90 minutes of the film where he is not onscreen are kind of forgettable, though. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/30 "2014-10-21T05:06:54Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > What was the first parody to use that clip?.. I seem to remember it was an anti-Hillary one during the latter days of the 2008 Democratic primary campaign, but Wiki doesn’t say: [Downfall (2004 film) - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downfall_(2004_film)#Parodies) Here’s a BBC article on the phenomenon: [BBC News - The rise, rise and rise of the Downfall Hitler parody](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/8617454.stm) ---
**Author:** ![Hail\_Ants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dc4da7/32.png) [@Hail\_Ants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hail_Ants)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/31 "2014-10-21T05:46:18Z")
Seriously, nobody is curious about him still having the Hitler mustache?! Like I said since he’s talking about the YouTube parodies this had to be long after filming was completed. And the most disturbing thing is, with that ‘stache, Bruno Ganz totally looks like freakin’ Hitler in the interview! ---
**Author:** ![Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/half_man_half_wit/32/21766_2.png) [@Half\_Man\_Half\_Wit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Half_Man_Half_Wit)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/32 "2014-10-21T06:02:48Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > Seriously, nobody is curious about him still having the Hitler mustache?! Like I said since he’s talking about the YouTube parodies this had to be long after filming was completed. He’s not talking about youtube parodies; it’s a parody dub of an interview Ganz gave on his decision to play Hitler, which likely took place around the filming, possibly even on-set. ---
**Author:** ![Charlie\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4bbf92/32.png) [@Charlie\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charlie_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 7:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/33 "2014-10-21T07:08:39Z")
I’m not certain, but I believe that clip may have been taken from the following movie starring Alec Guinness: > **[Hitler: The Last Ten Days (1973) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070184/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_23)** > > Hitler: The Last Ten Days: Directed by Ennio De Concini. With Alec Guinness, Simon Ward, Adolfo Celi, Diane Cilento. A dramatization based on eye witness accounts of Hitler's final days in an underground bunker, his military henchmen, and his stormy... Hitler: The Last Ten Days I thought it was a very good film. However, there are many documentaries that also cover the same subject and interview some of the people who actually were present during that time. You might prefer to check out some of them. Downfall was another good film starring Bruno Ganz. I believe it interviewed Hitler’s real secretary who was present during that time. So it would be part documentary. > **[Downfall (2004) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0363163/?ref_=nm_knf_t1)** > > Downfall: Directed by Oliver Hirschbiegel. With Bruno Ganz, Alexandra Maria Lara, Corinna Harfouch, Ulrich Matthes. Traudl Junge, the final secretary for Adolf Hitler, tells of the Nazi dictator's final days in his Berlin bunker at the end of WWII. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/34 "2014-10-21T10:19:09Z")
> [@Charlie\_Wayne](#): > > I’m not certain… True. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/35 "2014-10-21T15:32:33Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > And the most disturbing thing is, with that ‘stache, Bruno Ganz totally looks like freakin’ Hitler in the interview! When he’s not working on movies he’s actually available as Hitler for private parties. He also tours with Hal Holbrook in a two man show entitled Twain & Adolf. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/36 "2014-10-21T16:25:47Z")
He opened a new Chevy dealership here just last week. ---
**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/37 "2014-10-21T17:54:47Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > When he’s not working on movies he’s actually available as Hitler for private parties. He also tours with Hal Holbrook in a two man show entitled Twain & Adolf. This season it’s called _A Connecticut Yankee in Auschwitz._ ---
**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/38 "2014-10-21T18:12:29Z")
To me, he’ll always be discussing how Gangnam Style got a billion views ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/39 "2014-10-21T18:20:06Z")
> [@wedgehed](#): > > This season it’s called _A Connecticut Yankee in Auschwitz._ I’ve heard it’s really a gas. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hitler-mad-scene/701721/40 "2014-10-21T19:26:23Z")
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