# Hmm. Plane Crash In Bosda's Town.

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 30, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215 "2006-01-30T16:17:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2006, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/1 "2006-01-30T16:17:22Z")

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My town is noted for a general lack of excitement.

So, when a small plane plunges from the sky & becomes a horrible fireball, some comment is made.

[http://dnj.midsouthnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060130/NEWS01/601300319/1002](http://dnj.midsouthnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060130/NEWS01/601300319/1002)  
Apparently, the pilot is still alive, although I’m sure I don’t know why.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/2 "2006-01-30T20:00:31Z")

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Holy crap that plane looks terrible! It’s a wonder the pilot is still alive.

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**Author:** ![Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cab0a1/32.png) [@Man\_With\_a\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_With_a_Cat)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/3 "2006-01-30T20:28:44Z")

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> An unidentified neighbor directed the pilot to crawl away about 50 to 75 feet away from the flames.

“Hey, you better crawl away from there, because no way I’m getting any closer to help you!!!”

NOTE: Not meant to diminish the neighbor’s assistance, even doing that is more than a lot of people would do, but you have to have a pretty healthy respect for raging flame.

Damn.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2006, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/4 "2006-01-30T20:37:43Z")

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> An unidentified neighbor directed the pilot to crawl away about 50 to 75 feet away from the flames.

Just kiddin. I didn’t say ‘Simon Says’. Now go on back to the burning fuselage.

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**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/5 "2006-01-30T22:11:16Z")

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A few years ago a small plane nearly hit my house. I heard the props grazing the top of my trees, two family members saw the cruft falling outside our kitchen window. The guy managed to go on a couple more blocks but didn’t make it.

I put a thread here about this when it happened.

Now _that_ is scary. My ears still prick up whenever I hear a small plane coming in a little too close.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2006, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/6 "2006-01-31T00:05:30Z")

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There is a fire station only a few hundred yards from the airport. But, as usual in this State, Lookie-Loos got in the way of Emergency Services. Idiots. Idiots in SUVs, given the economic status of the people who live on that side of town.

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2006, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/7 "2006-01-31T01:43:10Z")

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> [@Terminus Est](#):
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> Holy crap that plane looks terrible! It’s a wonder the pilot is still alive.

Small planes aren’t as substantial as they first appear - that’s not an unusual result for a crash-and-burn.

I’m _guessing_ from the scanty information in the article, that since he bounced a few times he wasn’t going at full “flying speed” when the plane finally stopped horizontal motion. I’m _guessing_ 40-50 mph, which is more like a bad car accident than what most people think of as an “airplane crash”. Strapped in, surviving an impact at that speed isn’t that bizarre. It’s the fire and smoke that’s most dangerous.

A trim problem could, indeed, make an airplane _very_ hard to control. Presumably, they’re referring to elevator trim, which, depending on how it misbehaves, could make an airplane want to go sharply nose-up or nose-down. From the sound of it, I think this was “nose down” which would explain impacting short of the runway several times. Despite the crash and fireball, I think if an airplane elevator trim _had_ to jam one way or another, I think I might better survive an extreme “nose-down” than an extreme “nose up”. Either way, NOT fun at all. He is lucky to be alive. I just hope he makes a good recovery.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2006, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/8 "2006-01-31T15:29:44Z")

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Update–pilot in critical condition.

[http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060131/NEWS01/601310312/1002](http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060131/NEWS01/601310312/1002)

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**Author:** ![GusNSpot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gusnspot/32/436_2.png) [@GusNSpot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GusNSpot)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 8:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/9 "2006-02-02T08:37:20Z")

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_The only time you have too much fuel is when you are fire._

Hope all goes well with him.

Be interesting to see what the cause was.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 12:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/10 "2006-02-02T12:48:09Z")

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Aaaand, in a similar vein, [Idiot Teenager Steals Plane, Lands At 4:30 AM At Murfreesboro AP.](http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060202/NEWS01/602020313/1002)

I wish that we had fewer “colorful characters” in this State. :smack: :eek: :smack:

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**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/11 "2006-02-02T13:04:25Z")

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> [@Mr Bus Guy](#):
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> “Hey, you better crawl away from there, because no way I’m getting any closer to help you!!!”
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> NOTE: Not meant to diminish the neighbor’s assistance, even doing that is more than a lot of people would do, but you have to have a pretty healthy respect for raging flame.
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> Damn.

Actually, the article also made reference to rescuers having to cut through fencing to get to the guy, so running in and being heroic might not have been feasible.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/12 "2006-02-02T19:29:14Z")

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> Walker said she and Brown were so hysterical they called their mothers.

The horror!

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**Author:** ![cabdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@cabdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cabdude)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/13 "2006-02-02T21:00:34Z")

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> [@Tenar](#):
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> Actually, the article also made reference to rescuers having to cut through fencing to get to the guy, so running in and being heroic might not have been feasible.

So the security fencing restricted rescuers attempts to help this guy?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 2, 2006, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/14 "2006-02-02T21:24:10Z")

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So you’re not going to tell us how much it costs for an examination Down Under?

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**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/15 "2006-02-03T01:23:02Z")

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> [@cabdude](#):
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> So the security fencing restricted rescuers attempts to help this guy?

Basically.

But it kept Tennessee safe from terrorists!

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/16 "2006-02-03T01:50:03Z")

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> [@Broomstick](#):
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> Basically.
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> But it kept Tennessee safe from terrorists!
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> :rolleyes:

To be fair, security fences also keep people from wandering onto the airport, riding OHVs or motorcycles onto the property, etc. Although I did get a report of ‘coyote traffic on the runway’ when I was on final at WJF once.

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**Author:** ![cabdude](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/58956e/32.png) [@cabdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cabdude)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/17 "2006-02-03T01:56:41Z")

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> [@Johnny L.A.](#):
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> To be fair, security fences also keep people from wandering onto the airport, riding OHVs or motorcycles onto the property, etc. Although I did get a report of ‘coyote traffic on the runway’ when I was on final at WJF once.

Good point, but wouldn’t a waist high fence do the job? Look at the size of that fence - must be a good six feet high. At what point does security become a safety issue?

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [February 3, 2006, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/18 "2006-02-03T12:49:06Z")

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> [@cabdude](#):
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> Good point, but wouldn’t a waist high fence do the job? Look at the size of that fence - must be a good six feet high. At what point does security become a safety issue?

When there is a private, elementary/middle school 1/4 mile away. Some o those l’il nimrods don’t know lunch from din-din, & would wander onto the runways to “see the pwitty aiw-pwanes”. :smack:

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2006, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/19 "2006-02-17T16:33:05Z")

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And the Joyriding Doofus-Pilotboy _doesn’t_ get hammered to the slammer.

[http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060217/NEWS01/602170321/1002](http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060217/NEWS01/602170321/1002)

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> After Frost was taken into custody, Sheriff’s Deputy Scott Daniel said the boy had gotten into an argument with another youth over his girlfriend, which apparently prompted his one-night crime spree.
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> Frost flew the airplane over his girlfriend’s home and buzzed deputies’ cruisers, Daniel said. Frost guided the plane in circles and side angles, swooping up and down, toward the officers and “right over the top of us.”

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> Scott scheduled his next hearing March 13. If Bedford County releases Frost before then, he must be on house arrest. He may only go to school or stay with his parents and can’t contact his girlfriend.
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> Maples said he hopes to get Frost’s record erased later if he maintains good behavior.

Hmm. Got offer lighter than I thought he would.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2006, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hmm-plane-crash-in-bosdas-town/342215/20 "2006-03-10T16:02:50Z")

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More than 2 month later, the poor sunnavagun dies.

[http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060309/NEWS01/603090316&SearchID=73238035927460](http://www.dnj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060309/NEWS01/603090316&SearchID=73238035927460)

The pilot of the January crash died Tuesday. He must have been in Hell. ☹
