# Ho-fucking-ho: Christmas Season mini-rants

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [November 29, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309 "2010-11-29T18:36:19Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/301 "2010-12-22T17:45:53Z")

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You’d say, “I’ll send you a confirmation of that _by mail_,” meaning email?

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### Author: ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2010, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/302 "2010-12-22T17:45:59Z")

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> [@Moonlitherial](#):
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> _raises hand_ Maybe I’m just lazy but I’ve regularly said in meetings “I’ll mail you a confirmation of that” and no one has ever thought I was planning to use Canada Post.

Yes, I am afraid that many dudes do say that, around here they often say “snail mail” to refer to USPS, and “mail” means" email. Of course, this _is_ Silicon Valley. Still, most people here speak English as their native language.

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### Author: ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/303 "2010-12-22T17:49:51Z")

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Yeah, sorry, I should have been more specific. I’m speaking specifically about the construction “send _ **by mail** _.”

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### Author: ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2010, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/304 "2010-12-22T18:29:22Z")

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> [@velvetjones](#):
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> Two weeks ago on a Saturday we walked up the block to our favorite local diner for breakfast. The waitress (who told us on a previous visit she’s 81) comes to the table and begins to take our order. Right in the middle of my order she stops and says “wait a minute, I love this song” and then goes over to the kitchen and asks the cook to turn up the musak which up to that point had been pumping the annoying holiday tunes at a reasonable, easily ignored volume. What’s the song that is so beloved to this octogenarian that she had to stop doing her job to listen…
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> Alvin and the Chipmunks singing I have to freaking idea, some Christmas shit.
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> They turned it up really, really loud. She stood there at our table and listened intently while continuing to not take our order and proclaimed that Alvin and the Chipmunks “give her goose bumps” .
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> Seriously? You can’t make this shit up.
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> Oh and when she finally did take our order she got it wrong.

Good on you for allowing an octogenarian waitress to glom onto two minutes of Christmas cheer. 🙂

I hope they turned the Muzak back down when _The Chipmunk Song_ ended. And I’m sorry the order was messed up. How far did it diverge from what you wanted?

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### Author: ![deb2world](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7cd45c/32.png) [@deb2world](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deb2world)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/305 "2010-12-22T19:15:24Z")

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> [@Lucky\_13](#):
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> In other news, the oldest of my dogs is having trouble getting up lately, and yesterday my mom found her in the back yard, turning circles over and over in the rain, because she had forgotten where she was. We brought her in the kitchen and toweled her off, and she just lay there in a heap for the next couple hours. I know she’s not going to be around much longer, and she’s suffering, but I still feel guilty about putting her to sleep. I know that it would be the humane thing to do, however, because of her arthritis and her near-blindness, plus whatever mental deterioration seems to be happening to her (do dogs get dementia? 'Cause that’s what she seems to have, a canine version of dementia). It makes me so sad.

I am so sorry about your dog, it is hard towatch a pet grow old. My vet gives a discount for elder patients (as in elderly pets), see if your vet does that.

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### Author: ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2010, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/306 "2010-12-22T19:58:46Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> You’d say, “I’ll send you a confirmation of that _by mail_,” meaning email?

Yep, but to be fair we all hang out in the same 2000 square feet or so - it’s pretty clear that email is the medium.

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### Author: ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2010, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/307 "2010-12-22T20:03:18Z")

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Weird. Guess it’s just a dialectical variation. If somebody said they were going to send me something “by mail,” with that exact phrasing, I’d definitely assume physical mail.

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### Author: ![Lucky\_13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucky_13/32/13209_2.png) [@Lucky\_13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucky_13)
#### Post date: [December 22, 2010, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/308 "2010-12-22T22:47:53Z")

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> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> Yeah, a brain can decline in function just like any other organ. The higher-level (read: smarter) an animal is, the further they have to go. And ohhh, it’s so hard to watch, and I feel for you, **Not-So-Lucky-Right-Now**. Maybe it’s because we live longer and a human decline is longer/slower, so watching something with a shorter lifespan like a dog, it’s like the whole thing is on fast-forward.
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> ☹

Yes, I’m really tempted to call myself that sometimes. 🙂 Earlier the dog was walking around in the rain, and Mom had to physically drag her onto some dry cardboard and enclose her in the portable dog enclosure we have so she wouldn’t wander out in the rain again. And I can’t even help her, because my dr. has cautioned me against any heavy lifting. I feel rather useless right now. ☹

> [@purplehorseshoe](#):
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> (But who the bloody hell gets offended at people not liking Kathy Lee Gifford?)

Not me. Dislike away!

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### Author: ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/309 "2010-12-23T01:00:09Z")

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> [@Lucky\_13](#):
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> \<snip\>t I still feel guilty about putting her to sleep. I know that it would be the humane thing to do, however, because of her arthritis and her near-blindness, plus whatever mental deterioration seems to be happening to her (do dogs get dementia? 'Cause that’s what she seems to have, a canine version of dementia). It makes me so sad.

There are some ways to try to help you figure out if it’s time for that trip to the vet - from [this](http://vetmedicine.about.com/od/lossandgrief/f/FAQ_euthanasia.htm) site:

> [@](#):
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> Here are some things to consider when evaluating your pet’s quality of life:
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> Does your pet soil him/her self during the day? This can really be a stressor for some pets who prefer to be clean, and it can also pose health risks - i.e. skin rashes and infections from sitting in urine and/or feces.  
> Does your pet still enjoy “basic activities” such as eating? Is the appetite normal?  
> Does your pet enjoy human interaction? Is s/he still cognizant of who you are?  
> Can your pet move around without difficulty or pain?

It kind of sounds like your dog is there - I recall somebody here saying that they regretted not putting their pet down when it was time, and I don’t want to have that regret myself.

> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> That’s not illegal? Around here, you have to shovel the public walkways around your property within 24 hours after the snow has fallen or you can be fined.\<snip\>

Yeah, it’s illegal here, too, but poorly enforced. There have been so many people not shovelling the last couple of winters that we were having news stories about how many thousands of complaints the city had about it, and how they were so backlogged that you might as well just forget about it. Nice to know that the free-riders can continue their free ride without consequences. :mad:

For the record, I would not say “mail” when I meant “email.” How hard is it to stick an e on it and eliminate possible confusion?

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### Author: ![Runestar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/74df32/32.png) [@Runestar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runestar)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/310 "2010-12-23T01:59:45Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Yeah, it’s illegal here, too, but poorly enforced. There have been so many people not shovelling the last couple of winters that we were having news stories about how many thousands of complaints the city had about it, and how they were so backlogged that you might as well just forget about it. Nice to know that the free-riders can continue their free ride without consequences. :mad:

And can I just add my $.02 here: if you don’t clear your sidewalk, but do clear your driveway, **and pile all that driveway snow across the sidewalk** , those of us who want to walk on the sidewalk should have the right to come into your house and smack you around with snow shovels.

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### Author: ![Moonlitherial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4bbf92/32.png) [@Moonlitherial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moonlitherial)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/311 "2010-12-23T02:42:40Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> For the record, I would not say “mail” when I meant “email.” How hard is it to stick an e on it and eliminate possible confusion?

If anyone had ever been confused I would probably have stopped but I think I’ve infected others now. 😃 Oops!

> [@Runestar](#):
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> And can I just add my $.02 here: if you don’t clear your sidewalk, but do clear your driveway, **and pile all that driveway snow across the sidewalk** , those of us who want to walk on the sidewalk should have the right to come into your house and smack you around with snow shovels.

I can get behind this plan!

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### Author: ![mischievous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mischievous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mischievous)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/312 "2010-12-23T03:11:14Z")

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> [@Runestar](#):
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> And can I just add my $.02 here: if you don’t clear your sidewalk, but do clear your driveway, **and pile all that driveway snow across the sidewalk** , those of us who want to walk on the sidewalk should have the right to come into your house and smack you around with snow shovels.

Or, if we’re not feeling _quite_ that confrontational, we should have the Og-given right to pile all of the snow directly in front of your front door. So that you can’t open it.

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### Author: ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/313 "2010-12-23T03:27:08Z")

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> [@mischievous](#):
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> Or, if we’re not feeling _quite_ that confrontational, we should have the Og-given right to pile all of the snow directly in front of your front door. So that you can’t open it.

No, that wouldn’t work, because we’re talking about the kind of people who only shovel where THEY walk, and that’s only to and from their car. You need to pile all the snow IN their car.

When I see houses that haven’t had the walks shovelled and have mail piled up in the mailbox, I feel like putting a big sign on the door, “GONE TO ARIZONA! PLEASE ROB MY HOUSE!” Except I don’t have to, because the unshovelled walks and full mailbox are already blazing neon signs.

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### Author: ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/314 "2010-12-23T04:44:26Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
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> Okay, I know we need rain but does it have to come down all at once?

Dudette, srsly. I just got back from four days in Orange County seeing the SO’s family, and christ on a pogo stick, that was some fucking rain. Kudos for the Getty Villa having its own supply of umbrellas for our visit, though.

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### Author: ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/315 "2010-12-23T15:31:52Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> How hard is it to stick an e on it and eliminate possible confusion?

In Spanish, apparently, a big pain in the ass, since the way you say “email” is to add a big long word onto the end of the word “mail.” Which is why I was just saying that \*\*Nava \*\*should probably point out when her language rants are actually about an exchange that was taking place in something other than English.

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### Author: ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/316 "2010-12-23T17:31:30Z")

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As a little token of appreciation, my department gave me a paperweight. Now, I’ve only been here for a month and a half, so I do appreciate that they didn’t leave me out. But jesus fucking christ, is there anything more worthless than a paperweight?!?! At least with a bag of dog poop, I can light it on fire and place it on an enemy’s porch. The only thing a paperweight is good for is to mock the fact that I can’t pick it up and bash in the skull of the next person who has a screamversation with a co-worker.

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### Author: ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/317 "2010-12-23T17:37:57Z")

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You could just start leaving all the office windows wide open, or aiming fans at people’s desks.

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### Author: ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/318 "2010-12-23T17:46:20Z")

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Taking a shower this morning, and one of my dogs incites the other, and by the time I’ve burst out of the shower and dashed into the next room, flinging water everywhere as I go, the fight is over.  
But the bleeding is not.

From the evidence, it appears that Suka, the instigating little bitch that she is, pushed the big dog too hard, and Dakota said “_Fuck that - it’s_ on\*!\*”  
:smack:

Normally, Suka is dominant, and Dakota is just fine with that, but she’ll will only take _just so much_ crap from Suka before she comes out of her corner, all teeth and muscle and bristling fur. The upshot? A 1cm deep puncture under Suka’s jaw, a 4cm bloody abrasion inside her right ear, and a 1cm[sup]2[/sup] divot out of the top of her dome and US$400.00 I hadn’t planned on spending on patching holes in ome of my dogs.

Oh, and liberally blood be-spattered shirt, pants, carpet, coat, shoes, and crate bedding. Plus a nice little blood trail on the hardwood, the front stoop and walk, and all through the vet’s office.  
:rolleyes:

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### Author: ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/319 "2010-12-23T22:02:46Z")

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Kentucky creams, why did you fail? One moment you’re a sticky, warm glob of taffy-stuff in my hands and the next you’re a pile of brown grainy sugary crud on the counter. It was a rather spectacular collapse, really. But now we’ll need a trip to the store for cream to make more.

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ho-fucking-ho-christmas-season-mini-rants/562309/320 "2010-12-23T22:27:13Z")

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> [@Grapefruit](#):
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> As a little token of appreciation, my department gave me a paperweight. Now, I’ve only been here for a month and a half, so I do appreciate that they didn’t leave me out. But jesus fucking christ, is there anything more worthless than a paperweight?!?! At least with a bag of dog poop, I can light it on fire and place it on an enemy’s porch. The only thing a paperweight is good for is to mock the fact that I can’t pick it up and bash in the skull of the next person who has a screamversation with a co-worker.

It’s the one gift that says “Hey, I was in the drugstore getting some hemorrhoid creme, saw this, and thought: ‘Oh that’s right, I’m the one who’s supposed to get something for that asshole I work for’: PERFECT!” It is truly a desperation gift; sort of like a coffee mug, only without the utility.

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