# Hoagie, grinder, Sub, Hero, Po'boy...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 8, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664 "2014-07-08T20:10:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Rajun\_Kajun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9fc348/32.png) [@Rajun\_Kajun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rajun_Kajun)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664/81 "2014-07-21T13:28:24Z")

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> [@Accidental\_Martyr](#):
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> See post #61. 🙂

Thanks for pointing that out, must’ve missed it on my way through the first time.

For anyone visiting Louisiana, go to New Orleans, take a seat at Mother’s down on Poydrus, it is the place to go for the best Debris (pronounced da bree) Po’ Boy in the world, just sayin… 😃

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664/82 "2014-07-21T14:31:02Z")

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> [@Rajun\_Kajun](#):
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> Thanks for pointing that out, must’ve missed it on my way through the first time.
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> For anyone visiting Louisiana, go to New Orleans, take a seat at Mother’s down on Poydrus, it is the place to go for the best Debris (pronounced da bree) Po’ Boy in the world, just sayin… 😃

I’ve been there and what a great sandwich. That said, Mother’s seem to elicit a lot of polarized opinions.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664/83 "2014-07-21T16:40:17Z")

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in Philly, a hoagie is a sandwich on a hoagie roll, synonymous with a hero or sub

a grinder is a hoagie/sub/hero which is heated in the oven

a Po-Boy is a hoagie/sub/hero, generally from the south in that the “dressings” include cajun mayo

a Cheesesteak, on the other hand, comes on a hoagie roll, can be a cheesesteak hoagie (if it contains lettuce and tomato), but is never a sub or hero… however, a pizza steak is a cheesesteak with pizza sauce and mozzarella, often heated in the oven like a grinder.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664/84 "2014-07-21T16:53:53Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> That said, Mother’s seem to elicit a lot of polarized opinions.

Off topic a bit, but:

Mother’s, in 2014, is considered by many (not all) locals to have been taken over by tourists and to have slipped in quality. It was a “best kept secret” kind of place in the 1980s … but now everyone and their “mother” ( 😃 ) seems to be there at all hours.

Mother’s is in New Orleans’ Central Business District, and so is still a popular lunch joint for some of the white-collar folks in the vicinity. However, the lines to get in and order can be very long, and a lot of people will not find the food worth the wait.

These days, if you ask a local to direct you to a great po-boy place, there are several dozens of less-crowded venues to choose from serving top-notch po-boys.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2014, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664/85 "2014-07-21T17:11:20Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Oh, man, that’s right up my alley. Gotta try it when I’m up in that neck of the woods.

They also have really excellent soup selections.

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**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664/86 "2014-07-29T02:31:24Z")

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Re: the NY subway theme at Subway:

The “BMT” sandwich is a play on words. Yes, it stands for “big, meaty, tasty”, but it also refers to the BMT subway line (Brooklyn/Manhattan Transit). Originally, there were several different companies operating trains in New York: the BMT, the IRT, the IND, etc. Those names are no longer in use, as it’s all the NYC Transit System.

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**Post date:** [July 29, 2014, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664/87 "2014-07-29T02:47:23Z")

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I’m pretty sure that the claim that “BMT” stands for “big, meaty, tasty” is quite recent, as in within the past decade. The sandwich was named for the subway line. Which still doesn’t say anything about the naming of the restaurant.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664/88 "2014-07-30T09:02:49Z")

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If these sandwiches were twice as big they would be Dagwood sandwiches.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664/89 "2014-07-30T14:21:10Z")

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Dagwoods are shaped completely differently, though.

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**Post date:** [July 30, 2014, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoagie-grinder-sub-hero-poboy/692664/90 "2014-07-30T15:50:47Z")

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i have been making these recently as it’s been hot, and i like a cold-cut sandwich when it’s hot.

Get a bolito roll or other soft white roll (out here in CA, bolito rolls are fresh baked and cheap). Sprinkle balsamic vinegar, olive oil and italian spices on the roll. Then mild pepperocinis , pickles, heirloom tomato slices, leafy lettuce. Provolone cheese, peppered hard salami, and two other italian cold cuts- mortadella/genoa, etc.

Enjoy!

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