# Hoarders + Antiques Roadshow = The Keno Bros.

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [August 25, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028 "2011-08-25T13:22:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Vita\_Beata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@Vita\_Beata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vita_Beata)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/41 "2011-09-08T13:16:02Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> . . . And was that a pile of Chinese-guy ashes on the rug?

.._Laughing, amidst my suspicious consternation_…

Yes, the Kenos certainly could have used valium downed with a stiff drink during the episode in Texas. I thought he was having a heart attack upon seeing the Audubon flamingo .. arm-pumping, hair grabbing excitement!

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/42 "2011-09-08T14:57:20Z")

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I’m an awful person: the whole ‘gotta sell all our preciouses’ to fund the son’s medical school – er.  
Thousands of doctors fund their education with _loans_, people.

Mostly, I wonder what the second son is thinking? What if _he_ wants an expensive educaton later on? Or to set himself up in a business, or whatever. Or hey, that would have made a nice inheritance some day, maybe he could use it fund his children’s needs then but instead it’s all gone to his brother, who will end up with a potentially higher income as a result…

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/43 "2011-09-08T15:41:36Z")

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Watched for the first time last night. Was annoyed by the pre-commercial teasing. I thought the Keno boys were better than that.

Can someone explain how unsigned paintings are worth thousands of dollars, just because they’re old?

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**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/44 "2011-09-08T17:20:55Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> I’m an awful person: the whole ‘gotta sell all our preciouses’ to fund the son’s medical school – er.  
> Thousands of doctors fund their education with _loans_, people.
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> Mostly, I wonder what the second son is thinking? What if _he_ wants an expensive educaton later on? Or to set himself up in a business, or whatever. Or hey, that would have made a nice inheritance some day, maybe he could use it fund his children’s needs then but instead it’s all gone to his brother, who will end up with a potentially higher income as a result…

Bingo. I thought the parents should be slapped if they are really going to sell things to pay for his education. The little snot was the worst- He wants to become a doctor to help impoverished countries (Great!), on his parents dime (Not great). Entitled twat.

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**Author:** ![Spit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/76d3ee/32.png) [@Spit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spit)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/45 "2011-09-08T17:22:03Z")

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Oh, and I love the show as well- Except for the stupid commercial cliffhangers.

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**Author:** ![phall0106](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phall0106/32/5934_2.png) [@phall0106](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phall0106)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/46 "2011-09-08T18:05:15Z")

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> [@Enderw24](#):
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> Next up, collectors who gather more useless stuff through sexual favors: Whoring Hoarders  
> And don’t miss the Swedish version: Whoring Hoarders Börk, börk, börk

Ya’ know, this doesn’t translate very well when one is hysterical with laughter and someone else says, “What is so funny?” :dubious:

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/47 "2011-09-08T18:43:39Z")

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Hate the show, mostly because of the tired old fake suspense:

"Your painting is worth . . . "  
\<Shot of man, dramatic music in the background for five seconds\>  
\<Shot of his wife, dramatic music in the background for five seconds\>  
\<cut to commercial\>  
\<second commercial\>  
\<third commercial\>  
\<fourth commercial\>  
\<network promo\>  
Return to show.  
Short recap of what is being mentioned.  
"Your painting is worth . . . "  
\<Shot of man, dramatic music in the background for five seconds\>  
\<Shot of his wife, dramatic music in the background for five seconds\>  
“$5,000!”

I don’t like this trope in the best of circumstances (it’s one of the worst parts of **Antiques Roadshow** ), but I have never seen it so blatantly drawn out as it is on this show.

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/48 "2011-09-08T19:01:41Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Hate the show, mostly because of the tired old fake suspense.

Yeah, if anything stops me from watching it will be this nonsense. I hold out some hope, as they toned it down a \*bit \*in ep. three compared with the previous two.

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**Author:** ![Laggard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de053/32.png) [@Laggard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laggard)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2011, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/49 "2011-09-08T19:12:37Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> I don’t like this trope in the best of circumstances (it’s one of the worst parts of **Antiques Roadshow** ), but I have never seen it so blatantly drawn out as it is on this show.

Yep. Not sure i can continue to watch it for this reason. Hells Kitchen does the same thing but Burried Treasure takes it to a whole other level.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/50 "2011-09-09T15:42:53Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> I don’t like this trope in the best of circumstances (it’s one of the worst parts of **Antiques Roadshow** ), but I have never seen it so blatantly drawn out as it is on this show.

:: puzzled:: They don’t do it on _Antiques Roadshow_, unless you’re watching on a commercial network (?). I thought AR was strictly a PBS show, no ads, no delays.

The only way AR draws anything out is when they ask the owner if they’ve had the item appraised or if they have any idea what it’s worth. Refreshingly, some owners admit to prior appraisals, or give a guess as to value. Usually it’s “I don’t have a clue.” 🙂

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/51 "2011-09-09T15:50:59Z")

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Well, when the Keno brothers are on Antiques Roadshow, and they’re looking at some particularly interesting piece of furniture, they will spend a bit of time describing the craftsmanship and talking about who made it, when you can tell that the owner just wants to know what it’s worth.

But yes, in general Antiques Roadshow really quickly moves from one item to the next. This show, on the other hand, is best watched recorded, so that you can fast forward through the fake drama.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/52 "2011-09-09T16:04:24Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Well, when the Keno brothers are on Antiques Roadshow, and they’re looking at some particularly interesting piece of furniture, they will spend a bit of time describing the craftsmanship and talking about who made it, when you can tell that the owner just wants to know what it’s worth.

True, but all the AR appraisers do that, not just the Keno brothers. Some of the owners seem really interested in the details. What I’d like to know is whether the owners sell the item, and how much they got for it.

The PBS version of AR is a lot more interesting than the British version. The Brits don’t spend as much time on background, and their appraisals seem more like guesses. Maybe the British version is done differently, more spontaneous. Don’t AR appraisers see the item before the show is filmed? They have time to do some research.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/53 "2011-09-09T16:23:56Z")

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On the American version of Antiques Roadshow, I assume that they’ve done research before giving their presentation before the cameras. Because I can’t imagine that they could spew that much detail without having done so. I haven’t seen the UK version in a while, and I can’t remember how much detail they go into.

And you’re right; some owners are really interested in the background details. Sometimes the object is something that’s been in the family for generations, but no one ever knew about its maker.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/54 "2011-09-09T16:58:06Z")

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> [@Duke](#):
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> There was a second sort of Hoarders and Antiques Roadshow crossover that piloted on A&E a while back called Dirty Money. It even starred Matt Paxton of Hoarders fame, so not surprisingly it was closer to Hoarders than Antiques Roadshow.
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> In it, the Paxinator went to a hoarder’s house to see what kind of salvageable and sellable antiques he could find in it. There was a beautiful Persian rug in one room…but it was all but destroyed by cat pee so it was worthless. (Choice line from Matt: “This smells like urine. And I work with urine every day.”) An apparently valuable wine collection hadn’t been stored properly so it was junk too. IIRC he did find a stash of designer dresses from the 1960’s that eventually sold for thousands; somehow those did not get moldy or shredded.
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> I think the pilot is somewhere on the A&E site. Matt says that he doesn’t know if A&E is going to pick up the show yet, although they seemed positive about it. (Matt and I are Facebook friends for what it’s worth, so that’s where I’m getting that info.) The pilot is certainly worth checking out if you’re a Hoarders fan.

That sounds more like Hoarder meets Storage Wars. Perhaps they need to get different cleaning crews to bid on a job and see if they can recoup their money and make a profit.

Back to the Keno girls, I mean boys. I watched one show but I hated how ‘proud’ of themselves and their ‘good work’. We saved this farm!

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**Author:** ![Vita\_Beata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@Vita\_Beata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vita_Beata)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/55 "2011-09-09T20:42:45Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> That sounds more like Hoarder meets Storage Wars. Perhaps they need to get different cleaning crews to bid on a job and see if they can recoup their money and make a profit.
> 
> Back to the Keno girls, I mean boys. \*\* I watched one show but I hated how ‘proud’ of themselves and their ‘good work’. We saved this farm\*\*!

Yes, I’m so glad you posted that. I felt the same way about their pats on the back. Yes, they offer their expertise in selling antiques, AND they also make money on the auction price plus money from these shows. Kudos to them, but no halos handed out.  
Regarding Hoarders: I don’t know how those cleaners can do most of those putrid jobs. I hope they are paid **very** good hourly wages.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/56 "2011-09-16T15:14:10Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Hate the show, mostly because of the tired old fake suspense:
> 
> "Your painting is worth . . . "  
> \<Shot of man, dramatic music in the background for five seconds\>  
> \<Shot of his wife, dramatic music in the background for five seconds\>  
> \<cut to commercial\>  
> \<second commercial\>  
> \<third commercial\>  
> \<fourth commercial\>  
> \<network promo\>  
> Return to show.  
> Short recap of what is being mentioned.  
> "Your painting is worth . . . "  
> \<Shot of man, dramatic music in the background for five seconds\>  
> \<Shot of his wife, dramatic music in the background for five seconds\>  
> “$5,000!”

Yeah! Why can’t this be more like [Cash in the Attic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_in_the_Attic)?

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/57 "2011-09-16T16:03:57Z")

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I missed last week’s show, in favor of **The Story of Temple Drake** on TCM. Was it any good?

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/58 "2011-09-16T16:09:02Z")

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> [@Eve](#):
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> I missed last week’s show, in favor of **The Story of Temple Drake** on TCM. Was it any good?

I first read that as “The Story of Temple Grandin” and had visions of Miriam Hopkins studying cows…

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/59 "2011-09-16T21:03:04Z")

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There was one just downright mean moment, when they raised the man’s hopes with a $100,000 figure, then told him it was a fake. He ended up with mid-five figures I think, but it had to be an overall let down after that. Kinda icky.

What is up with the Keno’s gait? They walk like oversized frogs or something.\* Is there some problem or is it just their style?

\*ETA: That sounds really catty, but I don’t know how to soften it. I’m honestly curious and trying to describe what I see. . .

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hoarders-antiques-roadshow-the-keno-bros/594028/60 "2011-09-26T01:02:46Z")

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How long before Mr Rembrandt kills Mrs Rembrandt? Or the other way around?

And how did Mr Audubon, an obvious schlub, land Mrs Audubon, a classic Texas hottie?

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