# Hobbit: Radagast the Brown getting a bigger storyline **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 18, 2012, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119 "2012-09-18T23:57:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/21 "2012-09-19T14:25:59Z")
> [@Acid\_Lamp](#): > > Christopher “Partypooper Sefishpants” Tolkien _hated_ the Jackson movies, and would likely not sign off on any further work by him after “The Hobbit” is filmed. I still genuinely wonder how Professor Tolkien himself would have felt about Jackson’s LOTR movies (he could be pretty critical, and I’m sure he wouldn’t have liked everything about them, but would he have been glad to see his creation come to life, or disgusted), and how he’d feel about something like this Hobbit project. Worst-case scenario: Radagast becomes this decade’s Jar-Jar. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/22 "2012-09-19T16:49:41Z")
I always wanted me some more Radagast. Saruman said he was stupid. It would be wonderful if he were smart in a way that Saruman would never understand. ---
**Author:** ![Doctor\_Who](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Doctor\_Who](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doctor_Who)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/23 "2012-09-19T16:54:50Z")
> [@standingwave](#): > > Or the Blue Wizards, the remainder of the five Istari. Not much is known about them. I like to think that they were BFFs (maybe even BFFs with benefits if Jackson wants to get really daring) who walked the (Middle) Earth, going from place to place, meeting people and getting into adventures. It could even be a TV series with a new adventure each week! 😃 I reported your post\* so a mod could delete it. You have to be careful posting something like this. If a TV producer sees it, this will get greenlit in 15 minutes. - not really ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/24 "2012-09-19T17:01:30Z")
I’m still hoping Jackson will punk the world with a shot-by-shot remake of the Rankin-Bass cartoon. ---
**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/25 "2012-09-19T17:29:43Z")
That still wouldn’t make up for his inexplicable omission of [Where There’s a Whip, There’s a Way](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y) from ROTK. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/26 "2012-09-19T17:51:37Z")
Lord of the Rings XII: The Search for the Entwives. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/27 "2012-09-19T18:31:41Z")
> [@Antigen](#): > > Well, that pretty much guarantees my husband won’t want to see it. He’s still so upset about how much LOTR was tweaked to make it into movies that he refuses to watch Two Towers or Return of the King. I have never understood this attitude. Its a movie. Its a completely different medium. If you want the book word for word go read the book again. I loved the movies. I do question the reason for some of the changes. I loved the books. I know recognize the the writing is a bit stiff. I have no problem enjoying the movies on their own merits. He is a fan that refuses to have any enjoyment from the work. It just seems weird to me. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/28 "2012-09-19T18:32:48Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > I always wanted me some more Radagast. Saruman said he was stupid. It would be wonderful if he were smart in a way that Saruman would never understand. My 12 year old self was always fascinated by Radagast and wanted more too. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/29 "2012-09-19T19:13:39Z")
Ahem… The three movies will not just cover “the Hobbit” novel. They won’t start with a knock on Bilbo’s door and end with him coming home. They are not all literally “the Hobbit,” so quit assuming they’re stretching it out by adding Legolas beefcake shots! They’re otherwise vague. I see no conceptual problem with showing what Gandalf is doing, it just depends on execution. And screw Tom Bombadil. > [@standingwave](#): > > Or the Blue Wizards, the remainder of the five Istari. Not much is known about them. I like to think that they were BFFs (maybe even BFFs with benefits if Jackson wants to get really daring) who walked the (Middle) Earth, going from place to place, meeting people and getting into adventures. It could even be a TV series with a new adventure each week! 😃 Can one of them be a talking cat? Sauron can be voiced by the guy who does Spongebob. Oh, and Radagast was cool. I think it’s not that he is dull, but that he doesn’t care about civilization. He wants to spend time with his animal friends, Beary the Bear, Eagley the Eagle, and Wargy the Warg. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/30 "2012-09-19T19:21:52Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Lord of the Rings XII: The Search for the Entwives. And the porno sequel Entwives go Wild!!! ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/31 "2012-09-19T19:38:21Z")
One on of the LOTR DVD commentaries, Peter Jackson toyed with the idea of making a TV series about Ents who solve crimes. (Very slowly.) ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/32 "2012-09-19T20:00:45Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > I have never understood this attitude. Its a movie. Its a completely different medium. If you want the book word for word go read the book again. I loved the movies. I do question the reason for some of the changes. I loved the books. I know recognize the the writing is a bit stiff. I have no problem enjoying the movies on their own merits. He is a fan that refuses to have any enjoyment from the work. It just seems weird to me. It’s all just another interpretation/translation of the various texts making up the \*Red Book of Westmarch \*. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/33 "2012-09-19T20:06:27Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > One on of the LOTR DVD commentaries, Peter Jackson toyed with the idea of making a TV series about Ents who solve crimes. (Very slowly.) That’d work really well with a Colombo spin: “Wellll, thaaaank yooou foooorrrr youuuurrrr timmme, I’lllll beeeee onnnn myyy waaaaay, hrooooom…eeeeexceeeeppppt, juuuuuust oooooooonnneeee moooore thiiiiinggggg…” ---
**Author:** ![tullsterx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tullsterx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tullsterx)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/34 "2012-09-19T20:12:34Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > In other words, the second best movie series ever? LOL! It’s horrendous I tell you! Anyway, I think the LOTR movie are really a little weak, but still amazing. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/35 "2012-09-19T20:37:21Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Worst-case scenario: Radagast becomes this decade’s Jar-Jar. Meesa help! Meesa go talky to eagles! ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/36 "2012-09-19T20:54:40Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > That’d work really well with a Colombo spin: > > “Wellll, thaaaank yooou foooorrrr youuuurrrr timmme, I’lllll beeeee onnnn myyy waaaaay, hrooooom…eeeeexceeeeppppt, juuuuuust oooooooonnneeee moooore thiiiiinggggg…” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/37 "2012-09-19T21:49:28Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > I still genuinely wonder how Professor Tolkien himself would have felt about Jackson’s LOTR movies (he could be pretty critical, and I’m sure he wouldn’t have liked everything about them, but would he have been glad to see his creation come to life, or disgusted), and how he’d feel about something like this Hobbit project. > Worst-case scenario: Radagast becomes this decade’s Jar-Jar. Well from what I can gather about his opinions on the illustrations provided, he probably would have had mixed reactions to the films. Likely he would have taken umbrage with the scripting, along with the language delivery. OTOH, he certainly seemed to enjoy all the illustrations provided to him, even the ones he deemed “bad”. I think that if he could be persuaded to allow the films, he would have enjoyed them as a sort of homage. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/38 "2012-09-19T21:54:26Z")
I seem to recall that characters broke out in song in the written books (LoTR). I wonder if he would be dissapointed that Jackson didn’t include much of that in the films. 🙂 Was there singing in The Hobbit? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2012, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/39 "2012-09-19T22:46:41Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > That’d work really well with a Colombo spin: > > “Wellll, thaaaank yooou foooorrrr youuuurrrr timmme, I’lllll beeeee onnnn myyy waaaaay, hrooooom…eeeeexceeeeppppt, juuuuuust oooooooonnneeee moooore thiiiiinggggg…” “Weeeeee’ve come loooking for the…(wheeze) Entwives” “What do they look like” “Weeee dooooonnn’t KNOW!” “Well in that case (looks around) There’s one over there!” (points to a shrub) “THAAAATTT’S NOT AN ENTWIFE!!! BAARRUUUUUM HAARUUUUUUM!” “Oh yeah? Prove me wrong. Mate with it. See what happens.” ---
**Author:** ![HansH](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ed655f/32.png) [@HansH](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HansH)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2012, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119/40 "2012-09-20T00:39:45Z")
The Hobbit is a wonderful book for kids with a lot of humor. They want to do a kind of The Terminator from it but that will not be The hobbit anymore. Still it can be a good adventure movie. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hobbit-radagast-the-brown-getting-a-bigger-storyline/635119.md?page=3)